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Edit: Before you read, please note that this is not a comparison of games, but a comparison of $/content value. TO ALL THE HATERS: Most of us come from a FPS background in either COD, Battlefield, or Halo. And it seems there is a lot of us on here slamming Bungie, but can we please BACK THE CRAZY TRAIN UP?!!! [u] I, myself, have been a COD person, so I'm going to speak specifically from that point of view[/u] Let's look at the facts before drawing some conclusions: 1. Call of Duty games launch with around 10-11 multiplayer maps, then charges a fee for DLC (usually around $15) that includes around five more maps. There are four of these DLCs in a "season". This DLC has no other content then those five maps and then maybe a new weapon - Destiny launched with 11 multiplayer maps and the first DLC will introduce 3 more maps to the Crucible 2. Call of Duty games generally have an entertaining campaign mode that takes about 6 hours to complete. You are solo on this campaign. - Destiny launched with a "campaign" mode that takes at least twice as long as a Call of Duty campaign, and can be played with up to two other friends if you want. You can always play it solo if you choose. These campaigns do repeatedly start you in the same world over and over again, but take you through different parts of that world to defeat different bosses. 3. Call of Duty puts in tons of micro transactions for character customizations, voice commentators, weapon skins, etc. that you pay real money to access - SO FAR, Destiny doesn't make you pay any more for such customizations. There are tons of options already available. 4. Call of Duty's DLC includes only 5 multiplayer maps and maybe a gun for $15 - Destiny's DLC includes 3 multiplayer maps, a host of new weapons and armors, new drop items, a new raid, new missions and strikes, new shaders and it costs only $5 more. So, let's add all this up: CALL OF DUTY - For a $60 game, and $40 of DLC ($60 if you don't buy the season pass) I get: - Around 30 multiplayer maps, a 6hr campaign, some other kind of co-op mode that usually few people touch, a couple of added weapons, a number of looks (though your armor/camo/ghillie suit play no role in actually preventing damage), and that about sums it up DESTINY - $60 game, $35 for DLC ($40 if you don't buy expansion pass): NOTE - I'm going to estimate based on what we know of The Dark Below and apply it to the House of Wolves DLC - 16 Crucible maps, an estimated 24-30hr campaign that can be played solo or with a small team, about 12-15 new weapons, 8-10 new armors (that actually do something besides aesthetics), three 6-player co-op Raid missions, multiple in-game currencies, a grimoire packed with story content (albeit very few people read, but it's more than COD has going for it), and that about sums it up. My question is this; WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT???? Destiny offers so much more content then Call of Duty or Battlefield, or even any of the Halo games. You may not like the story as much (agreed, it was extremely lacking), but there is a ton in this game, the gameplay is tight, and for less money then what I pay in a year on Call of Duty I feel like I'm getting more content. I'm on Playstation, so an Xbox user may feel differently, but let's admit that for a new IP, this game has a ton going on. CAN I GET A WITNESS?!
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  • Play the real man's game bf4. -blam!- cod and all their future games, they're money grabbing ass holes.

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  • Errrrrr, DLC costs a crap ton on battlefield too........

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  • I know I paid 50 for the premium or what ever it was. Cod just has things like buy this one gun for x amount of money, or buy this shader. It just seems like a rip off to me.

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  • Moron. Cod is a pvp based game. You buy it for the pvp. Destiny is a RPG. Just because they they are both fps does not make them comparable. You views are blurred because you have you head so far up bungie's ass

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  • Well mr perfect... Don't insult this guy for applauding Bungie and having his head up their ass. Cause I just checked out your stats and you seem to be liking Bungie's cavities as well considering you logged in a little more than 13 days worth of gameplay (cumulative of all three of your characters). So please... I've never logged in more than 10 days worth of gameplay on any game. And that means a lot from an AC fan... So stop bitching and anonymously shitting on people

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  • I have room mates that i share the account with. I dont know how in the hell anyone could have that much time. Moron. Besides, time played would not reflect views and opinions of the game.

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  • Umm no

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  • [quote]Edit: Before you read, please note that this is not a comparison of games, but a comparison of $/content value. TO ALL THE HATERS: Most of us come from a FPS background in either COD, Battlefield, or Halo. And it seems there is a lot of us on here slamming Bungie, but can we please BACK THE CRAZY TRAIN UP?!!! [u] I, myself, have been a COD person, so I'm going to speak specifically from that point of view[/u] Let's look at the facts before drawing some conclusions: 1. Call of Duty games launch with around 10-11 multiplayer maps, then charges a fee for DLC (usually around $15) that includes around five more maps. There are four of these DLCs in a "season". This DLC has no other content then those five maps and then maybe a new weapon - Destiny launched with 11 multiplayer maps and the first DLC will introduce 3 more maps to the Crucible 2. Call of Duty games generally have an entertaining campaign mode that takes about 6 hours to complete. You are solo on this campaign. - Destiny launched with a "campaign" mode that takes at least twice as long as a Call of Duty campaign, and can be played with up to two other friends if you want. You can always play it solo if you choose. These campaigns do repeatedly start you in the same world over and over again, but take you through different parts of that world to defeat different bosses. 3. Call of Duty puts in tons of micro transactions for character customizations, voice commentators, weapon skins, etc. that you pay real money to access - SO FAR, Destiny doesn't make you pay any more for such customizations. There are tons of options already available. 4. Call of Duty's DLC includes only 5 multiplayer maps and maybe a gun for $15 - Destiny's DLC includes 3 multiplayer maps, a host of new weapons and armors, new drop items, a new raid, new missions and strikes, new shaders and it costs only $5 more. So, let's add all this up: CALL OF DUTY - For a $60 game, and $40 of DLC ($60 if you don't buy the season pass) I get: - Around 30 multiplayer maps, a 6hr campaign, some other kind of co-op mode that usually few people touch, a couple of added weapons, a number of looks (though your armor/camo/ghillie suit play no role in actually preventing damage), and that about sums it up DESTINY - $60 game, $35 for DLC ($40 if you don't buy expansion pass): NOTE - I'm going to estimate based on what we know of The Dark Below and apply it to the House of Wolves DLC - 16 Crucible maps, an estimated 24-30hr campaign that can be played solo or with a small team, about 12-15 new weapons, 8-10 new armors (that actually do something besides aesthetics), three 6-player co-op Raid missions, multiple in-game currencies, a grimoire packed with story content (albeit very few people read, but it's more than COD has going for it), and that about sums it up. My question is this; WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT???? Destiny offers so much more content then Call of Duty or Battlefield, or even any of the Halo games. You may not like the story as much (agreed, it was extremely lacking), but there is a ton in this game, the gameplay is tight, and for less money then what I pay in a year on Call of Duty I feel like I'm getting more content. I'm on Playstation, so an Xbox user may feel differently, but let's admit that for a new IP, this game has a ton going on. CAN I GET A WITNESS?![/quote] People didn't buy this game for some rehashed Cod shit. They bought it for a mmo halo type which was what was led on

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  • Erm...the campaign is more like 6-7hours, unless you are holding the controller with your feet.... The problem is, like it or not CoD MP is far far more addictive than the Destiny PvP....the Destiny PvP is not as good as other games that trade on PvP...so it loses....Destiny is also miles behind games that focus on PvE....so it losses.. The main factor that is keeping myself and others is that we play with friends...once those move on the game becomes hollow...the mechanics are polished but it is lacking a 'heart' So at the end of the day the total package may seem really good, but you have two parts that are not nearly as great as they could be...

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  • And that 6-7 hrs is actually 3-4 hours of original content. Once you take the long transition paths between sections out its closer to 2.

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  • Yep...and its really just a grind...with few interesting or inventive sections... i.e. when I used to play CoD a long time ago, the Ghille section was awesome on MW1...

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  • Bump & suck it up princesses...

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  • You kids are -blam!-ing idiots they are giving you shit that is already completed and on the disc. Why don't u idiots pull your pants down and bend over. .

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  • Well kiddo... You don't seem to understand much about economics and what the benefit margin Bungie requires to pay their employees, keep that team and the servers running and keep updating the game. Because in the big boy world money is everything and when you don't make money you can't maintain your standards. Activision is a publisher that made destiny possible by giving Bungie 500 million dollars. And now Bungie (probably already has the money to pa back what they have to) but need to keep making profit to keep the company alive.

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  • [quote]You kids are -blam!-ing idiots they are giving you shit that is already completed and on the disc. Why don't u idiots pull your pants down and bend over. .[/quote] Skylanders does the same thing, take your pitch fork over to their forums

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  • You already have

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  • this person is right and i do know that from beging a call of duty person and battlefild person its like you want more addons to destiny or not like the people how so call hate destiny and all of that stuff grow up you specky dick heads stop complaning about a game and no game is perfect and $20 dollers is the rught price for this games addons so stope complaning to your mum/mom this game sucks why did i get this game and thank you person who brang this up

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  • Please, for the love of everyone's brain cells, learn grammar and learn to spell.

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  • All I got from this was "I'm a filthy casual who compares quasi-mmo's to call of duty games". I rarely use the term "casual", but sorry, that's what COD is, a casual game for casual gamers. Destiny was meant to be more than what it is now. It was meant to be an open world mmo, not this. If people like you are comparing it to COD... God help us all, it says a lot about this game's current condition.

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  • Just for your own knowledge, so that you can make informed statements, I've played everything from original NES sidescrollers, to nearly every Final Fantasy, Maddens, CODs, Uncharteds, Tomb Raiders, KOTOR, Halo, Gran Turismo, Persona, and the list goes on. My favorite genre happens to be RPGs, so am I disappointed by Destiny's story? You bet. But is it still a fun to play? Absolutely. Have I gotten $60 worth of fun (not story) out of this game? I believe so. To each their own, but don't complain that Destiny doesn't offer good value for your money because it does. There's a whole list of game out there that offered terrible value and the latest one is Driveclub. If you haven't heard all the problems with this one then you need to read up

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  • I never complained about not getting the value out of my money dude. You're pulling things out of nowhere to try and twist what I said. I've played tons of rpg's also, great, that makes me hot shit I guess. We're talking about Destiny though. You compared this game to COD. THAT is the bottom line, and THAT is what I'm saying. If the game is being compared to COD it has issues, and if you're comparing it to COD, like many other people say, I can't take you seriously. So write another long ass irrelevant paragraph to my statement, please, by all means, entertain me more.

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  • This is why. Note the part about the campaign being completely different to what was advertised.

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  • All these other games released with a full finished story in campaign mode as well. unlike destiny which had their full story hacked into pieces so they could then sell it to us in micro-transactions and call it dlc.

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  • 24-30 hour campaign is where I lost all respect for this post....

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