Oh yes, I did Either way, the only way to learn music was through classical training. In the early days, the church would imprison or kill those who refused to play the way they did. There was no "other" way to play music UNTIL the 1930's is the point, and even then those who were self taught were usually horrible, or out of key most of the time. But here's no sense in arguing with someone who just doesn't know. Back to school with you