Let's be gentlemen about this Xepherys. You have good ideas and a good outlook otherwise. I too see it as good value. On the other hand, I can feel valic69's pain because I too think that what was advertised may not match the game we got. But with patches (Xepherys is correct on this) we get not only fixes on things like being bumped off but we can get better game material too. We just need to be patient and not expect to beat the game overnight. I don't want to beat it quickly. I want years of entertainment. For some - it is boring - for me it is fun - most of the time, lol. When I play with friends - I always find it fun. When I play alone - I sometimes feel the problems of the game instead of focusing on all the fun. Maybe valic69 is playing this mostly solo. That would be an explanation for his angst. Let us all be kind to each other and play together with fun in mind. Note to all: One way of seeing the DLC is that where the content was there to begin with is where they had to have it done before hand so they could release it in time for the holiday season. Had to had to do it from scratch - it probably would have been a few months later not to mention that the cost to them might be much more. Ask yourselves if you would rather have the game maker survive to continue to support the game or for them to give us everything at once and go out of business? I would rather they survive and am willing to pay the DLC price (I don't have to until the 3rd) because I think it is a fair price as long as the new content is great which I am not sure of yet as I haven't seen it.