Hey guys, MRO from the DoD 360 Delta Team, I think there's a lot off in the expectations of the Raid and the content and the concerns you raised seem to spot light the disconnect between what you expect and what you're getting. And that forces Bungie into one two things: Either change the program to meet your expectations, or better inform to change your expectations to meet the game. I think the choice of the Football Analogy best spotlights what's being missed. You are absolutely correct: If my Lions had to draw straws to see who was on QB, who was on Left Tackle, and who was on Wide Out for every play, it'd be chaos. Every play would be a hodge podge of events. Bush is for running. Megatron is for catching. Stafford is for throwing and managing tempo. Put Megatron at Left Tackle and things could get nuts. But that's also because the ~~Exepctation~~ is that each guy, right now, is going to always play the same positions and thus can train for those positions. Imagine, using your analogy, an alternate game of Football (American rules) where every play positions WERE randomly assigned. How would you approach this differently? Rather than hoping the right guys are assigned to the right positions you'd recruit Generalists. You'd want a team of guys that can throw, can catch, can block and can kick all with relative skill because you'd want to be sure they all clicked as a single unit regardless of what role they are assigned. To leave the analogy: You can't prepare for the raid the way you did in Warcraft. And YES this is different than every other raid in the game. Another comment that convinced me you were expecting a different product was the lamentation of what would happen if the level 26 had to carry the Relic. If someone would be oneshotted in any single role in the raid, then maybe the problem is that aren't ready for the raid yet. Maybe they need more strikes and PVP to get more Legendary gear, and more time to level that gear up to be better prepared to Not Die while running it. I'm sitting at a happy 27 and I've not even thought about the raid yet. I've got two pieces of gear with room to level before I even need to think about adding shards to them. I'm okay with this, myself. Because I do see the raid as something that I probably won't do. I've got my strikes to run, I love PVP for PVP's sake, and I've got a core of people I just like hanging out with and playing games with. ~~For Me~~ the lack of access to the raid isn't a problem. But I also don't expect to be able to get into the raid. I do want to get to 28 and I do want to try the raid, but for me that's something that if it doesn't happen I won't feel cheated because it's not something I expect to do. It's all about expectations. The changes to the raid, as far as I can tell, were specifically to get the encounters the way they were intended to be: The hardest possible PVE Content that only the best players can complete. That means every player has to be good enough to manage any role they are assigned by using what their particular guardian brings to the team. There are no healers and MT's in Destiny and I kind of like that. I wonder if the concern was the ability for a "lower" clanmate to be "Carried" through the raid and that was what they wanted to address. Even within this podcast there were lamentations about "that guy who didn't do anything got an exotic". Well, if the encounters are random, and everyone has to do ~some~thing, then that elimates the "guy who didn't do anything".