Bump dude you are so right if they just stopped killing loot caves that people have had to find out and use as you said human ingenuity and then nerfing things that people have spent hours upon hours on. If they didnt nerf things then people will have a sense of achievement when they get these things instead of feeling like you haven't achieved anything, so if only bungie/activision looked at this and though "hmm this guy is right maybe we should listen to him and make a change" Bump