Once again, I'm stating facts. I've had a few consoles (that's sarcasm, I've had most of them) and played on PCs and Macs. Played lots of stuff on lots of hardware. [spoiler]So when the current generation came calling I looked at the following; Hardware Price Indies Etc. By every metric the PS4 was the better option, other than building a entry/mid-level gaming PC. However I was interested in Destiny, Division and a few others that would likely be console only so that wasn't really an option and honestly my primary rig is good so two would be redundant.[/spoiler] So go ahead with your reddit/4chan bs, whatever you need to tell yourself so that $150 camera and poor GPU doesn't seem like a second class console. Just forget the part where it took a special patch and lots of work to get the XBOne from the Beta 900p to the release 1080p, whereas my PS4 was at 1080p from the alpha.