I haven't played in days and when I do it's only because my clanmates need help with Vog or nightfall. And sorry but but I wouldn't count on this Destiny rises from the ashes theory, Everybody I know who even still play's occasionally is extremely dissatisfied and will not buy the DLC. Many have quit outright and traded it in. And what the -blam!- does "grow up or give up" mean? Do I somehow appear young because I think Activision pulled a bait n switch on us? Maybe you appear childish as you continue to suck on the Activision teet and pretend the milk isn't sour.