This game is awesome hearing those complain how bad it is obviously should quit. You complainers obviously want to rush through the game. Those who complain they can't get there character to 30 because they get nothing but ascended materials through the raid..... Woopty dooo I can't get mine to 30 either but hey every week I keep trying. Why? Because I am challenged by Destiny to keep trying. If I were to get my character and my other 2 to 30 I would no longer be playing this game. I would be to damn bored that I have maxed them and will have nothing to do. These are just my opinions as well as others have their opinions but please if you don't like this game nothing is keeping u from quitting. I will continue trying to upgrade my characters and will be looking forward to yet another challenge from the darkness below dlc.