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Edited by Sgt Cabose: 11/7/2014 4:49:37 PM
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Runners vs Completionists

Runner

2550

Completionist

1702

Idler

85

Q: When it comes to strikes, you're a _______. But I'm "both". There is no option for me! [spoiler]Assume you have all the time in the world and you're soloing if you're "in the middle or both." This will help you identify what you really PREFER. Certainly, when faced with a time crunch but really want to play, we'll change out tactics from our true desires. However, with unlimited time, we'd be more likely to do what we WANT. Edit: there is no "Both" option. I want you to pick a side and defend it. Certainly there are a ton of us (myself included) that play to the rest of the group. But base your decision on soloing. Don't take the middle ground. That's too easy :P [/spoiler] Why there is no RIGHT answer: [spoiler]I'd recommend the book [u]Switch[/u] by Chip and Dan Heath. Arguing logic doesn't work. You have to motivate the emotional side of an individual to make it really work (in conjunction with logic). Your logic is sound, but you haven't targeted the [b][i][u]reason[/u][/i][/b] people walk/shoot (completionist) every strike. Some people are just plain having fun. If you could [b][i][u]show[/u][/i][/b] someone how much more [i]fun[/i] it is to run vice walk, you'd swing the community. Unfortunately, that must be felt and experienced. The written word (here) will most likely only apply to logic (unless you're an incredible writer). Logic is just not a strong enough element to do it alone.[/spoiler] Concerning the term: "Efficient" and why it's not an option on my poll. [spoiler]Most runners are running because of [i]time[/i] efficiency. That's probably the right title depending on your operational definition of efficient. One size does not fit all here. "Efficient" is defined by the measurement: Efficient completionists aren't worried about time, but kills instead... Not skipping any enemies. 100% encountered enemies die at their hands. Efficient runners are looking for personal records on strike TIME completion. "Gotta shave 30 seconds off. Skip the stupid colossus and just run by it." It's all in the eye of the beholder. Use this weeks Weekly Heroic as an example. After you activate the console in the public area by the interceptors, do you: A) Fight every enemy in the first big interior chamber and then continue on, also killing every enemy in front of the bosses siege tank (public area)? Efficient mob killer = completionist. Or B) Run and jump past those guys to get to the lieutenant fight (darkness zone), then run and jump to boss area? Efficient TIME completion = runner. Certainly there are those that want to split hairs and kill stuff while they're running through, but killing level 28 cabal majors and ultras takes some freaking time. If you're stopping to down all those dudes you're a completionists.[/spoiler] THIS POLL IS TO INCREASE AWARENESS This is the problem: People fall into 2 real categories. You either want the end of strike rewards only and time is of the essence, or you want to take the scenic route and kill everything on the way. Neither of these practices is bad!!!! Your brain and play style dictate what group you fall into. This does not mean the other group is [b][i][u]wrong[/u][/i][/b]! They're just different. Understand this and stop taking it personally. [spoiler]Idling is straight garbage. I don't care about the no-death strike bounties. Participate or get reported. Standing around farming materials and trash mobs also counts as idling no matter how you try to explain it.[/spoiler] So, which group to you fall into? I want this post to stick so everyone understands that there are 2 different schools of thought here and you should try to understand the majority. If 2 people sparrow off, they're runners. If you're a completionist, just quit, or speed ahead, help, and try your luck with a different group. If you sparrow up and the others walk towards the first mob, they obviously want to kill stuff. Quit, or hop off the sparrow and help. Of course no one is holding a gun to your head to be a team player, but team playing requires a "majority rules" mentality. Being the only runner makes you look like a jack ass. Sure, you soloed the boss. But your other 2 "team" members were left behind. It's not good etiquette. I say follow the crowd vice throwing a tantrum that someone isn't playing "your" way. Especially if you're the only one that wants to do it that way. Check left. Check right. Play as a team, OR DONT USE RANDOM MATCHMAKING AND GET MAD WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG! I'm a runner. Ran Sepkis Prime 25 times for Bad Juju, but slowed down when my team mates wanted to. Cheers guys. I did this in fun, but I hope it sticks. There are way too many hate threads about this.

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  • I stopped killing everything in the strike when i beat each one more that 10 times... At that point it's just like "ugh, let's just get this over with"

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  • i am a very slow player savoring every precision shot and even going "awww no" when i miss one. i love the solo hunter playstyle and use it to full advantage. i still wish you did not lose so much ammo when switching weapons from inventory because there are times i would like to swap just for that one perfect shot. that omg moment when random strikers jump the knights on the way to phogoth.

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  • My play sessions are really short, I have to run everything to get it done. Should get better towards Christmas, though my schedule gets mucky around then

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  • Run the strike, kill stuff that gets in the way. If I can go around it, over it or through it, I don't need to stop my sparrow or pull out a gun.

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  • Only thing I require are the marks, once I hit my cap for the week I do other things with my time.

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  • Depends on the group and the mission. In general I'll just kill the guys and only occasionally run by adds but if a group is rushing then I'll rush or if a group is killing then I'll kill. If its for the Heroics I'll be a completionist but if its an easy strike like House of the Devil's Lair then I'll run by most of the enemies at the beginning but kill all the enemies later.

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  • Edited by PerryEllis: 11/6/2014 3:38:16 AM
    Chose completionist because this game and its little mindless monsters were too easy. It doesn't take long to murder every being that is not the master race in this game.

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    When I did things for the first time completionist. As I started to do the same strike over and over again, I simply got bored thus why I am a runner. I want the rewards and then I'm out .

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  • Went with runner. When you've played the strikes 50x a piece, you're only playing them for rewards or boss bounties at that point. Nightfall might be taken slower to bring the risk of death down.

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  • It would be nice to be able to answer some of these questions in the game, to help with matchmaking. I'm put off strikes because I always seem to get paired with runners.

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  • But I just shoot things and they stop moving...

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  • I run for the sake of efficiency. But I will stick around an clear an area for the ammo/ bounties.

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  • If its a tiger strike i'm a runner regardless of what the other 2 are doing. If they want to kill everything on the way and its not good etiquette -blam!- them I don't have the time cuzz chances are I'm going to be doing this same strike 4 or 5 more times. After 2 or 3 times per strike the magic is gone and it just feels like work, going through the motions to get my van marks.

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  • You left out the option for both runner and completionist. I do whatever everyone else is doing. Except on the winters run strike. I hate that strike and try to end it as quickly as possible.

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    • In the Sepiks Prime strike, I hop on my sparrow and ride it all the way until Dinklebot says "Fallen [i]and[/i] Hive... let's try to avoid the crossfire." Then I get out and shoot everything. Is that speed-running?

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      • Killing the non strike mobs is how I regain my spent heavy ammo, so I'll continue to do just that guys.

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        • Honestly i was a a completionist , but after playing each strike hundred of times i cant bother anymore i just want to finish it ... Nice post

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        • I used to be a completionist until I saw how easy it was to run through the content. Bungie needs to put in more hard checks because running can't possibly be intended as is.

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          • Can't you be both? If I'm leveling raid gear I want the most EXP If I am just doing it for a bounty or because it's a weekly get that shit over with.

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            • I prefer to finish the whole strike, but since I group with random people a lot I normally will follow their lead.

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            • Man I haven't ran a strike in what feels like forever. But when I was doing them for gear, I ran through the parts I could. Idc idc idc

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            • What's there to complete?

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            • Em what I don't get is how do you die in a strike, it's so easy to survive

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              • I run it normally, killing everything, but if people run up far ahead and then wipe I stop playing. Clearly they don't need the help, but I still want my rewards soooooo fairs fair right?

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              • Edited by Boolin_v2: 11/6/2014 1:32:14 AM
                I like to look at the completion time after the strike and see if I beat my best time

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                • What if you do both? Most of the time when I do the tiger playlist, I tend to go with the flow. If people run through it, so will I. When I'm striking with my friends, we tend to destroy everything.

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