[quote]Completing any of those gives a random chance. Is it effort when people come in at the last minute, do nothing, and get an exotic? Is it effort when people afk and get exotics? No it is not. Is it earned when someone goes into their first ever strike/crucible match and gets an exotic? no it's not. [/quote] Completing any of them means effort was invested. [quote]The amount is irrelevant.[/quote] Goes for Public Events, Crucibles and even AFKing in the Strikes. The player takes part in the activity. That allows a roll of the RNG. [quote]There are some people that put in way more effort, and do these daily, weekly, and monthly and never get anything so by your logic unless anyone gets an exotic then they have wasted effort, but if they just happen to get an exotic it's not wasted? [/quote] [quote]The amount is irrelevant.[/quote] So much as one precision kill on an enemy grants an RNG for a drop. [quote]Does the lottery require effort good sir? No, it doesn't. People buy a ticket and hope for the best. If the best happens then it didn't happen through effort it happened through luck.[/quote] The lottery is purely through luck. A better comparison would be a Claw game.