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What would it take to make you a Christian? (non-theists)

The point was raised in HM Rob's thread, in a strange manner that didn't work so well. So here's a direct question for the atheists of Secular Sevens; what would it take for you to become a Christian?
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  • a revealing of the entire christian story, and some sort of bible that had a number of firsthand accounts or testaments as well as supplementary literature. and that story would have to make sense to both the mind and heart which god would have bestowed on me. i wouldn't need any personal experience, as i believe the roman empire existed, though i have never seen it. but in short, i would just need to "feel" that it was true...if i could say that. that is an incredibly subjective way to put it. but there are a surprising number of atheists you might find who understand the story being told, can't make sense of it, and though they try to believe it, they simply can't. people process information in different ways. is it someone's fault that whoever designed their brain designed it in a such a way that they can't understand the concept of faith or a belief in the supernatural? from a religious standpoint, you could almost consider that a disability. how could i be judged for a mental process by which i analyze information that hinders me from believing in the supernatural. i can't help that is how i analyze information. i can certainly admit that my process is no better than anyone else's, and that i could absolutely be wrong. but i would hope if their was a god he would not condemn me for the mind he gave me or you for the mind he gave you. trying to convey my thoughts as respectfully as possible, and i certainly mean offense to no one. i, for one, am so thankful that whether we were designed by a god or by something else, or just happy accidents of scientific law that we don't all think the same or see the world in the same view.

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    • I've always heard it said that atheists who try to believe are saved. Though I do not think this necessarily means atheists who do not consciously try to believe are precluded from salvation, for their subconscious desire may differ from their conscious desire. Basically, the way I see it, any atheist that lives a good moral life for the benefit of others, has a subconscious desire for the Church, and thus is saved.

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      • wow, incredibly open-minded and thoughtful response. you sound like you subscribe to the highest ideals of christianity, if in fact that is your religion.

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