I appreciate this begging thread section. I can not say that there is pro skill yet. However, I can say the need to stay alive does require much more focus and is getting better. The reason I started with the hunter was because of the cool factor it had in the beta and the knives/sticky grenade. In regards to hunters just running up and dying. Well in the old team I raided with they blamed me often just because somebody else died. Oh you were not shooting that guy or hes a hunter so its your fault anyway. That day much like others the hunter was not the cause of the wipe, but others seeing a misfortune or simply dying by a mistake. I have seen countless people that are warlocks or titans die many times over in random games. I seldom run into an hunter and if they happen to be in game they seem to take more caution from dying. In short every class has there traits. I believe the hunter comes up short on the golden gun, that is debatable still. My level 30 hunter has identical stats and with max toughness still takes less damage before critical hits. My warlock is a darn tank nearly. So the intolerances are in the numbers not being true to the game. Those hunters people claim to see die all the time are either new or not that bright in regards to tactical shooting. Put those people into a titan class doing the same thing and they will live a little longer. I just started and titan and see dramatic survive ability increases. Just saying that each class has their perks, the hunter apparently was envisioned as a glass cannon at best, the warlocks should have fallen into this idea more.