Agreed. But those random raid players are people who are serious enough to jump on here and search for games. Because they want to play. It can't even be compared to strikes because there are so many and so many ways to join them there isn't a huge gathering of players trying to get into the same thing. Even then I've had my fair share of afk or just bad strike players. And then no one talks even though they implemented game chat I've never once had someone online use it. Maybe because I'm playing out of Japan and that's their personality.