Where in my post do I quote anyone? 20 plus was my qualification of more than just hops.
Hops being anything that isn't double jump/lift/glide to a height over twice that of a guardian. Fist of havoc absolutely should NOT be capable of killing anyone more than 10 feet (approx) away in any direction as indicated by the visual effects. Also walls are supposed to be solid objects so no more killing people on the other side of them either, that shit is just stupid
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