I've not had great luck with the vault either so I was very glad to have the opportunity to get IB gear. Not that I'm saying I've done the raid 100 times or anything I've done it only around 6 times but Since every group cheeses every portion they can even doing it 100 times means nothing. Here's a little time involved but very minimal effort. I guess the same could be said about those who afk in IB. But my point is 30 is 30 no matter how you got there. Anyone arguing that is just trying to feel superior and needs knocked off their pedestal.