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11/27/2014 8:05:30 AM
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The Failings of Bungie: You May (Not) Become Legend

After having played destiny for a good few weeks (Bungie shows a good six and a half or so days of in-game time), I felt driven to write up a critique on its major failings. These are both from my personal experiences and the experiences I've read online from others. This is a two part critique on the areas I feel Bungie has failed the most, though they result in the same thing. But before I begin, I'd like to say that Destiny is a good game. It's just that it could have been so much more... Destiny: become legend. Or rather, Destiny: become whatever is given to you and feel grateful. When I first went through the story, everything was new and somewhat exciting, but not only that, everything was different. Guns ran through my hands like water, and I experienced a wide variety of perks and stats and looks. But when I reached level 20, this all came to a halt. Guns no longer ran thorugh my hands. Instead, I was devoid of anything new, anything likable. Eventually, I found Xur, the Vanguard store, and the factions, and I began my quest to become like everyone else. The armor didn't have stats I liked, but I needed the light. They didn't have the perks I wanted, but I needed the light. It was going to take weeks to earn the marks to buy them, but I needed the light. At first, I didn't upgrade any of the vanguard pieces because I hated them. I held onto my energies and shards like scrooge with his precious gold, but in the end: I needed the light. By now, I've become much more pliable: I don't scrimp my ascendent materials, because more likely than not, what I want is never going to happen. Destiny has turned me into a pessimist. Whatever happened to "Become Legend?" Look at the legends in game. Kabr refused to be bowed down, and ripped the face off of a Gorgon to make a shield. What a guy. Toland pursued knowledge to the bitter end, eventually going mad. Dredgen Yor felt darkness embracing him, and decided to embrace it back. Me? I'm a nobody. A nobody in a sea of nobodies doing nobody things and buying nobody items. We run the same nobody quests and strikes and turn in the same nobody bounties. We're not legends: we're nobodies. When I look at my fellow warlocks, I see my face on every one. The one who molded my character molded each and every one of them, and we all look the same and use the same weapons. Everyone wears the voidfang vestments nowadays. There's no reason not to, and more likely than not, it's one of the few exotics they've had the chance to own. Guns? They're so rare, just like the armor. You either buy what Xur is selling or buy from a faction. End of story. You're "Legend." I don't feel legend. I don't feel unique. I feel empty. Which leads to my second point, which is the fullness of Destiny. No, this is not about the story. This is about the dichotomy of what I have been told and what truly is. They tell me that we are on the losing side. Earth, Mars, Venus, the Moon, the rest of the known universe: all are held in a stranglehold by the darkness. The earth is empty. The moon is calm. Where is the chaos? Where is the overwhelming darkness? Where is the need for guardians? Patrol feels so empty. I stroll through the hive for no reason. I collect spinmetal plants under gunfire because I simply don't care. If they tell me Mr. Nexus has overstayed his welcome on Venus, I deliver an eviction notice. Aksor broke his curfew? Reign him back in. The Psions got out? Put a belt to their backside. A phrase comes to mind "Born too late to explore the world, too early to explore the universe." This is what playing destiny feels like. The fall seems so interesting, but it's over and done. People like Kabr and Toland and Dredgen played their parts. On the flipside, the impending darkness is too far away to be dealt with, too remote to encounter. Our guardians live in a time of peace, striving not to survive, but to simply find adventure wherever they can. Guardians are not legends: they are bored. Strikes are boring. The dailies are boring. Patrol is boring. In the end, you do your weekly, your nightfall, your dailies, your raid, and your farming, and that's it. Evil doesn't care, and neither do you. You're both just going through the motions. The fallen aren't actually maintining strength on earth, they just want to look like it. The hive don't actually care about the moon, they just felt like building a fortress. The cabal don't really care that you're on mars, they just get their jollies from shooting off explosives. You're not really in a struggle for your life against the forces of darkness, you're just doing whatever you feel like. Where are the front lines to this great battle? Commander, send me to the front! I want action! I want to feel like I'm making a difference in this universe! I don't want to be an errand boy any longer! I don't want to post any more eviction notices! But there is no war. There is only mundanity and repitition. There is a faceless darkness that is halfheartedly taking over the universe. It will take over the last bastion of men not by force, but by boring us to death. Conclusion: I am a nobody being bored to death by a faceless entity. I'm the futuristic, space magic-ey equivalent of a man-child in his grandma's basement thinking he's sticking it to the man. In reality, I'm doing nothing, and the man doesn't care. I want to feel like I am the master of my own destiny, not like I'm living off the charity of Lakshmi (though she is very charitable, and I love her for it) and Lord Saladin (ty for the boots and gloves m8, appreciate it). I want to feel like the darkness truly is trying to destroy mankind, not like it's sitting on its respective planets, sipping martinis. [b]I want to feel not only like I'm making a difference, but that there's a difference that needs to be made. [/b]

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  • Omg this man is so freaking right destiny is all religion and it needs to change they keep you interested with on legendary u already have sooner or later it's etting worse and worse

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  • I respect your critique but remember this is a new franchise. Even thought the producer are really well known, they have to set a small line that they can build on in the future. They said that destiny has a ten year plan for it. Meaning a minimum of 5 more game in the near future if not 10.

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    • I appreciate your succinct and heartfelt critique. I feel the same way too.

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    • Those are some great feelings and criticisms. Now lets spin it. What in a video game would give you the feeling of being a legend?

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    • +1

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    • [quote]End of story. You're "Legend." I don't feel legend. I don't feel unique. I feel empty. [/quote] Just a sample from what was sounding more and more like someone who expected a game to give their life meaning so, i quit reading.

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    • In a time of peace? Not really humanity is on the brink of extinction. With only one city left and our enemies literally at our gates, we are most definitely at war. The only thing protecting the city is the traveler and both the hive and the vex were draining it until we stopped them. Kabr opened the vault but we cleared it and even though all those guardians fell to Crota we will kill him. There are plenty of legends in destiny even if they're all the same. Its a video game if you wanrt to be special be a real life legend

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      • You can (Not) advance

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      • [quote][b]Me? I'm a nobody. A nobody in a sea of nobodies doing nobody things and buying nobody items. We run the same nobody quests and strikes and turn in the same nobody bounties. We're not legends: we're nobodies.[/b][/quote] #tooreal

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        • Amen.

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        • I can't read this garbage, but I can see your bs. I just needed the light.

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          • All I want is raid gear. No never -blam!-in getting that.

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          • -blam!- this stupid game I just did the raid for the tenth time and no -blam!-ing raid gear how the -blam!- can't I beat the game? Huh he's only done the raid four times and has gotten all the armor I haven't gotten once piece this is so unfair! I'm so -blam!-ing livid. -blam!- bungie biggest God damn reetards ever

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            • -blam!- you bungie for making an unfair game that makes a one who actual plays it not able to get to level thirty you -blam!-ing -blam!-

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            • Edited by Loot Cave Rave: 11/27/2014 2:19:46 PM
              Some of us really don't mind. I, amongst many, many more, am really enjoying this game. So much hate for a game that's only been out a matter of weeks. Give them some time. I mean the CoD games are always f**ked, but people seem to have patience with them, so why grief Bungie within weeks of a new game? They're fixing it with every update....

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              • Nice constructive criticism. I hope somebody from Bungie reads this

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              • Edited by Silvanthis: 11/27/2014 12:58:35 PM
                Welcome to a half-assed game by dumbass devs with their heads so far up their ass all they can hear is their bluetooth headsets. Where Bungie no longer gives a shit, and activision forces you to guzzle their semen while butt -blam!-ing you at the same time with shitty dlc's and updates. -blam!- Bungie, right in their pussy.

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                • I feel you man! Had the exact same thoughts a few weeks ago! !!!BUT!!! Please play the raid (id be happy to run you through the whole thing) because thats when i personally found the game to be most satisfying and maybe you will too! With the raid you really get a "bigger goal to achieve", a purpose to fight if you will. Especially if you read the Grimoire cards about Kabr you start to wonder what mysteries are still buried deep within the Vault, from the second and third jump puzzles leading to the old Vex gate just outside the entrance to the Glass Throne, to hidden paths and a possibility to leave the Vault during or after the bossfight! (I am not going to go into any theories, since this is neither the place nor the time to do so, but if you get into that "explorer-mindset" you get that kind of legendary experience we all wanted from the game) I really hope I could inspire some people to see Destiny from another perspective, and therefore won't give up the game just yet! But who knows, maybe I'm just utterly optimistic and trust my favourite game developers just a tad too much ;) Hit me up on PSN if you want, always happy to get more input on the whole "Mysteries of the VoG" thing! P.S.: I'm intentionally keeping the nightfall loot/raid gear debate aside, since feeling legendary/generally good about the time you have spent in a game, shouldn't be a thing of RNG :P

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                  • I don't want to come across as a dick but, they said they want this game to run for a decade if they have it their way, so you want everything there is and a more cohesive "somebody" feeling within the first 3 months? Patience and time

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                  • You have a lot of valid points there. I also like the game a lot and still play every day and do the Raid every week. I am at a point where I don't care if I do the same missions again but it is more the fun and interactivity that I have with my PSN friends doing the patrol missions, raids, dailies and weeklies. If you compare this game with for example the Mass Effect series then yes it seems that there are no sense of urgency, there is no danger, there is no war. However I think that has to do with the whole premise of the story. You didn't wake up in the middle of a war but after it all happened. You are there after the collapse, after the remaining guardians and humans had to resort the final safe haven which is the Tower. So it is more like your guardian is awake and crawling back out there to find out what the hell turned out of all those planets that was taken over by the alien races. I think you are actually starting a war again in the first installment of Destiny by evicting all those aliens and their gods/priests/princes. Maybe by taking that direction Bungie has made the story very underwhelming and a lot will probably pick up in the coming installments (which makes a lot of people angry and feel that they got an incomplete game - I don't blame them for that).

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                  • You managed to rack up 6.5 days in a couple weeks? Stop smoking crack and leave the house for once, holy -blam!-

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                    • Actually I'm enjoying Destiny. But I see your point. [quote]Where are the front lines to this great battle? Commander, send me to the front! I want action! I want to feel like I'm making a difference in this universe! I don't want to be an errand boy any longer! I don't want to post any more eviction notices! [/quote] I had one time a "shower", this "the enemies are moving against each other". Ok, I was only a small part of it, but it was soooo much fun. I had the real feeling to stop the darkness, trying it alone and there are masses of fallen, masses of vex, including some tough guys. It was a real shower, neverending, ammo running out, melee fights, taking cover, surrounded by enemies. It was that "THIS IS the darkness". Ok, they don't care about me and at the end it hasn't changed anything, but it was fun. [quote]I want to feel like the darkness truly is trying to destroy mankind, not like it's sitting on its respective planets, sipping martinis.[/quote] Who knows - could be, that the Traveler, the Speaker and the Guardians are the bad boys. And we sitting on the Tower, sipping martinis, trying to kick Mr Cryptarch in his ... and looking at a city, we can (or should) not reach. It reminds me on the movie "Oblivion" with Tom Cruise, a clone killing in the name of unknown species called "Traveler".

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                      • Very well said! I never thought about it this way but its right before all of us, plain as day.

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                      • I'm going to agree with you, but I do still enjoy Destiny.

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                        • You are 100% right. The game many hoped for is not the one we have right now. Maybe over time things will change, and guess we have to learn to crawl before we can walk. Trouble is Bungie, many people are sprinting and we are not even 6 months old yet!

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                        • You got a point but even people get accustomed to chaos. There really is a fine line between too much going on and too little

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