well with the cabal, I did state that after the embarrassing defeat at the twilight gap, T'cun fled to London before The vex ever became a problem to the cabal
as for the machinist, wasn't Kabr from the VOG corrupted by the VEX before he "killed" himself to make the relic. The machinist is the end result of The Vex Getting their way with useful hosts which could have happened to kabr
well for the new enemy...i was thinking about eventually you have to face off The Fang, to force him to help you.
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Except the cabal weren't at the battle of the twilight gap. What happened was all the fallen houses joined together for an assault on the last city, the cabal have never been past mars in our solar system.
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[quote]The Twilight Gap is an abandoned military base on Earth, as well as a Crucible map.[1] It is located on the outskirts of the Last City, and can be seen from the Overwatch District. In some way, it represents much of humanity's history. The Cabal first made their presence known here.[2][3] The Gap was the site of a battle in which thousands of Guardians fell.[4] [/quote] you were saying?