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Edited by Delegirous: 11/26/2014 7:31:22 PM
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Bungie on Reviews by Gamespot

So Bungie COO Pete Parsons took the time to critique the game review process to Gamespot, stating that games like Destiny require a need to change the way games are reviewed. I took some... issue with his responses. [quote] "I think it's very difficult to--as we see games like Destiny coming out--it's very difficult to sit down for nine hours, 11 hours, and write up a review of a game like Destiny, right?"[/quote] Why, yes Pete... it is. BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE BEAT THE GAME IN 11 HOURS... got a crap pulse rifle and had absolutely no clue wtf the story was about. You would have then realized you had about another 11 hours of replaying the same game you just beat over and over to grind for an some artificial number so you could hit the glass ceiling to raid. Which you would have beaten by the end of the first week (if it had been available). [quote]"If I were a reviewer it seems like a nearly impossible challenge to do because there's just no way you can experience... you barely experience sort of the campaign side of it and just PvP and no way you can get into all of the end-game activities,"[/quote] Well thank god you arent Pete. Let me sum Destiny up for you, and it is the polar opposite of impossible. 1-20: Blast through the story in 10 hours, have no idea wtf the plot was, doesnt matter, doesnt affect anything 20-26: Grind the Story, Bounties, and Crucible for Rep/Marks 26-28: Grind Shards/Mats to upgrade gear, Raid 28-30: HM Raid, RNG for helmet, Grind exp 30: Nothing to do... grind exp for the 10 exotics that suck sitting in your vault. 'barely experience sort of the campaign side'? I think you mean the campaign side can barely be considered an experience. PvP? Although I do enjoy it for the most part (not counting Blind Watch... seriously... guys... did you play that map?... like... ever?) has little to no value in progressing your character to 30 (not counting IB). All the end-game activities? Are you shitting me? there are TWO: Raiding and Grinding. The article also goes on to say: [quote]The review process for games is indeed changing. Earlier this week, Ubisoft explained why it thinks you might not want to trust day-one reviews for The Crew, a socially inspired racing game.[/quote] Okay Bungie, you now have Ubisoft agreeing with you... the people that just put out Assassin's Creed: Unity. You know, the game that Forbes said should have been recalled due to the number of glitches and functional issues. This article really struck a nerve, obviously. Its one thing to gut a game, have whatever internal issues you all apparently had, and put out a game that artificially stretches out play time with grinding. I understand (as your contract with Activision is all over the internet) you cant come out and say anything negative or admit that Destiny is not the game you intended to make. But I have to tell you, this article pushes a very thin line: you have the audacity to blame the review process and call it into question? That's like advertising a BLT, selling me a turd sandwich, then telling me I just need to reevaluate what a sandwich could be. Pete Parsons responses make me wonder if he even has played Destiny. This article is embarrassing for anyone with half a mind. You look ignorant to your own game, and the situation you have put yourself in. I dont expect anyone at Bungie to take open accountability for what Destiny turned out to be, but you look like an asshole when you point fingers at the review process and make excuses. You really need to get out of your own way Bungie. Having been a huge fan since Halo caused me to invest in an Xbox, I write this to try to help you... but I have to admit, I am beginning to question if Bungie even is the same company anymore. I hope you realize I am not the only member of your fanbase that has had their trust shaken. Despite my coarse and sarcastic tone, I really do. Try to remember: this time twenty years ago, you were sitting in a warehouse in Chicago folding your own Marathon boxes to make Christmas orders. Today, you dont fold Destiny boxes... and thats because of your fans.

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  • He wasn't sitting in a warehouse. The only old Bungie employee left is Jason Jones. It's become the norm to hate on everything. Game reviews focus on the bad and don't say much about the good. Review scores are arbitrary. IGN spent more than half of a review I read saying CoD:AW had a terrible single player campaign the story was full of inconsistencies and random exposition. Then they said about equal parts good and bad about the pvp and slapped. 9/10 on it. The review of DA:I where he actually beat the game, was one of the best reviews I've read. Because he actually played the game. Yes Destiny's campaign was short and left people wanting, and the endgame leaves something to be desired, I won't argue with that. But as far as I can tell, most of the server issues are fixed, they fixed the cryptarch, they fixed the loot cave(s), they did some fixes to the raid and they're pushing out new content quarterly. Destiny is only going to get better. Most of the reviews I read went in with an expectation. Is this going to be like Halo, Borderlands, WoW or CoD. In the end it wasn't quite like any of those and they reviewed as such. I bought it expecting something much more MMO like, I was a little frustrated when I hit 20 and it was just a gear grind with limited content. Then I reminded myself what WoW was early in 2005, one raid, a handful of instances (strikes), no vendors, no rep, a few confusing factions, a lot of disconnects and login queues. Yes WoW had a social aspect, yes WoW had 60 levels, yes WoW had a more open world, yes WoW had more plot and lore (but they already had 10 years in the franchise) and WoW had a lot more classes and abilities. But in the end it's largely the same. Go here, kill this, get x reward you don't need. Go raid, get gear, grind factions, get gear, farm mats, upgrade gear... Bungie made a console fps/mmo-something or other, which was supposed to appeal to to masses. Which it seems to have done. Early in the hardcore fps people didn't like it because it was too easy, the mmo people didn't like it because it was too fps-like and other people hated it because it got them a lot of YouTube views. Whatever Destiny might have been, it is what it is. Almost every post I see about it failing to meet expectations was filled with assumptions and personal expectations based of what they had interpreted. It's clear some things got changed and cut. But it wasn't to resell it to you as DLC, they clearly went a different direction in the end. Which isn't a direction everyone liked, but there it is.

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