I only farm while doing van bounties and public event hunting, and still collect enough to do my upgrades and sell to the QM's. beats being bored while waiting for the PE to drop, or being bored playing through the same strike for the @#$% time. Bungie needs some fair trade sanctions, lol. and some PvE / PvP referees. XBL is down, nothing to do but gripe on the interweb, haha. on a brighter note, Thorn seemed back and more OP then ever when I was using it earlier. Bad Juju does appear improved, and the Suros'ers have something to complain about... another grab bag of forum rage brought to you by Bungie. "[We fixed it for one person and broke it for everyone else.]"