EDIT #1 BEGIN - Summary for those who missed the OP long a$$ complaint:
Removal of material exchange for vendor reputation and marks generated this post.
Using a Day 1 feature NOT exploit to access and buy legendary gear and avoid PvP for personal reasons.
EDIT #1 END
First we get a ton of mods to fix the PvP whining resulting in PvE nerfs, then 2 PvP events to 1 PvE but still more PvE nerfs.
Now take away more access to vendor weapons and armor to those of us who HATE PvP with a passion. I was fine farming for material and purchase Crucible items even though it was daunting. Never complained since I could avoid PvP.
What the heck was the logic behind removing material exchange for Crucible rep and marks?
I never saw any posts or complaints about resource exchange. If anything, it kept PvP haters like me away from ruining PvP games even more than they are already.
If this game was advertised as a PvP centric game with a scarce PvE element that would take a back seat to everything PvP I would have passed on it like I did with Titanfall and other PvP games.
Either bring back the material exchange for Crucible marks and rep, open all vendors to accept both currencies or I'll just play PvP to piss as many off as possible to obtain a K/D of 0.00.
If your going to ruin PvE, I'll do my part to ruin PvP as best that I can. Maybe I'll even be stoked to play Iron Banner 3.0 and shoot for the #1 spot in the worst PvP of all time.
Just as you have people that hate PvE, from reading the posts for the past couple of months, you have more that hate PvP.
Please tell us now that Destiny is 80% PvP and 20% PvE so we know where you stand.
All I know is after waiting and hoping Bungie would bring some love to PvE, all we got was a third and fourth kick in the balls.
After the expansion is released and there is still no resolution to this horrible PvE treatment, I'll waste my extra time playing even more like a complete noob in PvP just to piss as many people off as possible.
I'll highly recommend that others who feel the same do too.
If this was just "another" unintended side effect from a patch I may feel bad for ranting. If not, enjoy the last $ you'll see from me or anyone else who feels the same way.
If there is some great addition in the expansion to nullify this rant I truly apologize in advance.
BTW, it might help to post a list of the 100 worst PvP Guardians in your app. I would like to try and make the top 10 of that list.
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Bump. I fecking hate PvP!
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This is much better. Learn to adapt loser
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This is a physical impossibility good sir/madam. You cannot possibly have the lowest k/d score because that is my mission. My mission. I am to become the worst pvp guardian.
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Stop crying, It's a game.. Every single game out there has game changing updates. I've never seen so many people complain about an update for any game except this one. The only reason you don't like PvP is because you're bad at it. You act like they didn't force PvPers to PvE! They sure as hell did!
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Not trying to be an ass for anything, but Bungie can't have those 2 things in there at once. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get on last night because of the lizard squad and i won't have time until tonight, but from what I've heard, it's 10 marks for 20 materials. Before that, it was 50 materials for 5 marks? Not sure since I never used that. Anyway, if they kept both in, you could just play PvP for a day then spend 30 marks for 60 materials and turn those in for 5 marks or however many you got back in return.
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I just think with the new update you should get 300 weekly marks instead of 200
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I think it's stupid they took the Mat for marks away.. But it sort of makes sense now that you can buy mats with marks.. They don't want people to use marks to buy a bunch of mats, then exchange them for rep.. But I agree, it seems like everything it catered for PvP. I play a lot of pvp, but I do like PvE a lot too!! I would like to see more events and buffs in the PvE environment.
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100% agree
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yesterday I was bothered a bit by their decisions, but after having the night to think about it I came to one conclusion, if the game isn't fun for me anymore I won't play it.
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I think they took it out because material is easier to get. But -blam!- that tbh. I don't like the PvP
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A solution: Just let us buy faction gear with vanguard marks already!
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Make a new NPC who buys them again somewhere else in tower. You can buy 20 for 10 marks as normal, but to sell it's 20 materials for 10 marks. Everyones happy
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Just use Vanguard weapons? I do not understand why this is a big deal to you. I'm 30 and haven't gotten past Crucible rep 1.
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Why do you need Crucible marks? I've got to 30 twice, all without any PvP gear. What do you want to buy? All the guns are the same as Vanguard, just slightly different stats. The sparrows are hideous. The armour won't get you to 30. The only real thing would be a class item.
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Basically.... I refuse to play PvP...... /thread
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"I h8 PvP" *buys an FPS the company that made Halo* "Wtf there r PvP in dis gayme"
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Yeah I've already seen a few posts dedicated to ppl who are going to afk PvP now just because they are forced to play it
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I'm pretty bad at PvP, but I still had 200 crucible marks that I had no idea what to spend them on. I'm pretty happy with the change because farming was getting super old. If you want crucible marks, then play crucible. Take this from someone who is not a huge PvP fan.
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Haha this post is hilarious. "If your going to ruin PvE, I'll do my part to ruin PvP as best that I can." As if anyone cares? "I'll just play PvP to piss as many off as possible to obtain a K/D of 0.00." As if anyone cares? "If not, enjoy the last $ you'll see from me or anyone else who feels the same way." As if anyone cares. There is far more PvE in this game than PvP. Again this post is hilarious. PvP = 5 modes and a few maps PvE - 4 'open' (debatable) worlds - countless story missions - Raid - 5 Strikes - Public Events - Farming - Sparrow exploring - Bounties And this is a PvP game? (for the record I am a PvE > PvP player)
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Edited by Surface2AirMissile: 12/2/2014 12:11:10 PMRelax, you can get material for vanguard marks as well. And also you get material for doing bounties involving patrol missions. So don't know what you are complaining bout Edit: sorry didn't know you were talking about exchanging marks for rep
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Edited by KingKone64: 12/2/2014 12:17:27 PMI think ur being a little over dramatic. It can be fixed easily by letting is use vanguard marks for factions
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I've never understood this "need to get pvp gear" thing. Until very recently I've been almost purely PvE. Got to 28 just fine, had decent gear, decent weapons. Everything was great. IB changed things for me a bit and I've been doing a lot more PvP recently (starting to enjoy it more as I get better at it), but I didn't have to. Nothing PvE bar the hard mode raid requires you to be over level 28 right now, and lets face it if your doing hard mode raid you've done normal mode and are probably a 30 already with raid weapons. Is the PvP faction gear really so much better than everything else that you have to have it to play the PvE game?
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If you suck at PvP thats fine! You'll get an exotic within 5 matches!
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Edited by Vanargand: 12/2/2014 12:03:33 PMNot sure why you seem shocked? Every move Bungie has made seems to indicate they value PvP far more than PvE. At least it's out there so people can make purchasing decisions with that understanding. Edit: You may make the top 10 worst PvP list but I'll be #1 on it! :-p
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Edited by Enjoy CanaBLiSS: 12/2/2014 11:47:28 AMYou can afk for Christ sakes and still get marks, get over it