There's no thorn bandwagon. It was crap because of the slow reload, 6 bullet mag. It just was a rare weapon to actually use. Now I didn't mess with it once I got it much because I just couldn't get a kill with it. Wasn't strong enough n it didn't hold enough ammo. I'm sorry but hard light master race beats suros any day. Tired if ppl saying pre patch hard light was poop. It's an amazing exotic n now it's even better. Only ppl who complain are bad juju, suros, and last word hoarders xD