Wait i'm confused, the Crucible weapons and armors are the same as the vanguard items, just different colors.So why do you need Crucible rep? Just keep playing PVE. I don't understand how PVE was ruined, it seems to get better with every update. With the new material purchasing i don't have to sit for a few hours farming helium. From what i'm reading this just seems to be an excuse for being bad at PVP, and saying that your going to be bad on purpose only to mask the fact that your not very good at it. Did people really trade materials for rep? you can do a tiger strike and get the same amount of rep than trade it 50 material units or just do patrol missions. Someone enlighten me, this post sounds like someone is complaining to complain. If the game has screwed you over so much, stop playing and move on.