I think you forgetting Iron Banner and when I said do your research I did not mean read a definition in the Dictionary. How am I suppose to know where you are from? Yes people do log in more hours in PvE than PvP. Patches are mostly to fix PvP. They barely fixed VoG, but I'm pretty sure not all the glitches. I still encounter Praterians that refuse to die. I guess you did not get same advertisement as I did.