When 30 gear was raid only, the PVP only whiners bitched and moaned and whined and bellyached non stop, until they got their way. Because the knew if they didn't, they would have to do the raid to reach 30. And they wanted to feel special, and be 30 like other people were. Yet you tell PVE players if you want the gear, play the mode? Irony and hypocrisy at its finest folks.