[quote]Unless you have an experienced raid team and good weapons the hard mode raid is an excruciatingly painful experience.[/quote] This is the way it's meant to be. The raid is the epitome of the game's challenges and mechanics. The hard raid, even more so. It's a fire team of 6 based event to test every player individually and as a team. If you guys aren't in sync, on your top game, communicating consistently and often, you're supposed to fail. Saying that the Template glitch being fixed ruined the raid is not the case. Having it go for so long without a patch ruined people's bar/standard for it, I'd what happened. What happened is people got lazy, and don't want to work for end game gear. That, or people don't understand how MMOs are supposed to work, with the grinding and skill involved. Hiding out in a corner where you're near invincible, push a boss off a cliff and not dealing any damage is not good strategy as people like to claim, but manipulating a glitch/flaw in the game's design and was rightfully patched. That's my thoughts on this in a nutshell.