Yeah, well the character I looked at has over 1000 games in the crucible and a K/D of 3.6.. which is great. My K/D is barely 1.0 (Edit: 0.98 :DD) and I'm surprised it's even that, because I've had so many insanely frustrating games and I don't seem to be getting any better. I'm a 31 year old not-that-experienced-in-PvP games player and I'd really wish to stay on the PvE side of things, but there's ALOT less gear for the PvE side of things. :P The vanguard vendor has 2 sets and.. that's it. PvP players have crucible vendor with 2 sets AND on top of that 3 factions and all iron banner gear to be purchased/earned. So.. yeah, I do feel like I'm missing out and ofcourse I hope I'd be a better player good enough to attend PvP but I consistently embarrass myself while trying. And it sucks. :P I just hope we had more options, that's all.

Thats not me, but im not great at pvp but my average is 1.5ish over all. And i can pull a 3-10 kd on a good day. And the only reason im that good is i took the time to learn what not to do. I play pvp one day out of the week to get my 100 marks. And i dont realy used them till now that i can buy mats. And the only reason i picked a fraction over the vanguard was for the cosmetic looks with no shader equipped. If u play by urself stick to rumble. Only play control and clash with a team. Not sayen u have no chance solo but solo is no fun with randoms.

ok, thanks for the tips. I'm willing to keep trying, I just seem to get frustrated pretty often when I clearly am not that good at it and sometimes doubt if I ever will :D (After all, the last game I played PvP on before Destiny was Halo 3, about 6 years ago :S)