Also before I stop caring, you're a far from flawless raider, so before you tell me I'm bad, let me re-state that I didn't hold the next group I was in the next day, it took very little time and before I knew it atheon was dead, atheon took 2 try's because one guy dc'd, Templar took 1 attempt, gorgons took a few, our spire didn't go down 3 times. And oracles took one try, not many. I don't pay attention to how you play, but that group we had combined (you and I) wasn't working