sorry man, but you're a moron... i'm pretty damned good at crucible...i'm usually in the top 3 on my team...more often than not, i'm leading.....i hate crucible because the reward system is garbage...there's no point to being good at it, if you're gonna get crap/duplicate/no rewards.....it's a worthless motherf**king time vampire at that point....so i try not to play if i can help it. so, that keeps me from leveling up crucible rep, which keeps me from the legendary crucible gear, unless RNGesus decides to drop it on me, which hasn't happened, even once, and i've been playing since day one... so yeah, just because people like PvE, and get annoyed with changes to it, doesn't immediately mean it's because we suck at PvP you really ought to think before you type...