[quote]Ur 1st sax[/quote] It was a pretty beat up used one and after a few years of practice I hit a ceiling on the sound quality I could get on it, but it served me well over the years, especially in marching band. I also learned a thing or two about fixing small problems because of that thing and I helped out my section on occasion when a spring came out of place or something else went wrong on someone's else's sax. I eventually got a much nicer Yamaha but I still have the first one.