Of course we are dealing with a matter of principle here. There is no need to turn the argument[i] ad hominem[/i]. Suffice to say, I haven't done the raid for several reasons: a) The game lacks an in-game LFG forum. A social based game like Destiny should include within itself the in-game mechanics to encourage social activity such as in-game clans and clan halls as well as an in-game LFG forum. If they wanted it to be an MMO, they should have included these MMO features from the outset; B) I have four other friends who play Destiny (most have stopped because the game is such a fail). It is difficult to get together due to time and schedule; c) The strikes and PvP are the most engaging aspects of the game. And, let's be honest, who the in their right mind wants to play patrol over and over ... mindlessly farming and fighting low level enemies? Sounds like a world of fun ... D) Grimoire score is low because I haven't the heart to repeat the same content to find all the ghosts and chests. I enjoy RPGs and I'm not against the notion of grinding. But the grind is horrible without more content. The fact is the game feels empty. I expected more from next gen games. I was expecting a Skyrim in space ... what we got was a Space Invaders/FarmVille combo. Addictive but basically rubbish.