Again, just for a note, I personally know how to do it. No need for commenting and leaving tips. Thanks This is a forum tear thread for just a warning. I 'downloaded', if you would call it that, my content for the DLC Tuesday like most people. I woke up and was excited to check out what new stuff there was and even some stuff that we had never even heard before! But that was not the case. Bungie had shown us 100% of what was in the DLC before it had even came out. What's the point in buying this ULC? (unlockable content, because by no means did we download anything) I still was not mad, and wanted to check out what new stuff there was. Of course I had to wait until Friday to do stuff like the Nightfall and this raid that everybody has been bragging about. After doing all those extremely hard missions (sarcasm) I unlocked and completed the nightfall with ease with ransoms. Easy, right? Of course I get a crappy legendary void sniper, but I wasn't too bothered because I hoped for better in the raid... I started off without knowing anything. A kind level 31 decided to guide my friends and I along through the raid. It took us about an hour to get from the start to Crota. All in all, not too shabby right? This is where I complain. We fight Crota. We learn new tactics and look some up via YouTube. We try them. Surely enough, 4 level 30s and 2 31s can't bring him down past 80% health. After about 3-4 hours of doing it, they all quit and turn off our consoles. I managed to form up a full lobby of 31s (total of 5, for I am a 30) TWICE and we try for a good 30-60 minutes with each lobby. Never brought him down past 55%. Wake up today. Do my errands, blah blah. I wanted to complete the raid today. I was tired of what happened last night, so tonight will be better, right? I gather 5 level 31s, this time experienced, and we still could not do it even with extreme communication. I tried this raid today for 5 hours (yes I do have a life, I play at night). Basically what I am saying is that this Crota boss, at its current form, is a tad too hard. For 5 level 31s and 1 30 (which WERE the top and strongest guardians) with all maxed out gjallahorns, vex, and ice breakers, not to be able to take down a simple boss in 5 hours? There's a problem. I know some of you may say it's easy, but for me, it's not. I don't have a raid group. I solo most things. But when top of the crop guardians join my fire team for 5 hours and can't do it? I have something to say. Luckily, I can express it here :) So do you guys think he is too hard? Especially when he's going to be even harder? I know it's early to judge. But atheon was no where near the power of Crota's during release! Atheon had to rely on self-reviving minotaurs to save him and still does to this day. Needless to say, I'm quite over with Destiny. I do not enjoy doing the same thing over and over for nearly 12 hours in a video game. It's frustrating personally. And yes, Forum tears collected 1/100 I know what to do during the raid. It's honestly not hard in my head. It's just somehow, somebody manages to screw up and I'm never sure how. No need for tips and pointers/ hate, for this thread is mostly a complaint thread and asking if Crota is a little bit too hard and maybe his health needs a reduction, just by the slightest bit?