Bungie patched several exploits in VoG. If that's not a message to us stating exploits are not okay then idk what you think they mean. And I think they are bad tactics because they are used to bypass actual in game mechanics for the raid. It's one thing to sit in a safe area to shoot a boss. It's entirely different when you break or bypass a mechanic. Semantics. If people are really interested in seeing the 2 out of map spots i'd be glad to post them. But they don't make the raid easier so I didn't see the point.