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Almost posted this to general forums but realized it would be pointless and troll-able.
So I see this all the time now where players rant about being hardcore and despising casual gamers. I feel it is a major community killer where elitists dismiss others with the casual brand. And its annoying because it always seems subjective as to what defines each group. So I was just sort of curious as to how folks out there define each group.
To me it's not about the time played, the gear someone's collected, or the level of completeness achieved for a game. I think it is all about the passion for the gaming hobby. Just because someone doesn't have a schedule that allows 8 hours a day to game doesn't mean that person is any less "hardcore" if they are genuinely having fun and play hard. And the same goes the other way: a person can play 10 hours a day but if they treat it like a job and don't really play to enjoy the game are they really hardcore, or just people with more time on their hands?
I personally get only about 6-8 hours a week if I'm lucky to really kick back and game. This was different when I was younger and logged 12 hour or more days playing WoW and other games. Now when I do play I play for the enjoyment of playing, just as I did back then. And that is different things in different games. Story in some, competition in others. I play just as hard during my few hours now as I did back then I just have less time to do it. I still consider myself hardcore as i have a strong passion for gaming, but I don't let it rule my life which seems to be the common conception of hardcore.
So what are you folks opinions? How do you define these groups and do you feel that one group should be valued more for the other?
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I'd classify myself as a casual player. Like yourself I usually only get 6 to 10 hours a week to play compared to the 12 to 20 hours in the past. It does get frustrating when you meet up with non-DoD players who call themselves "hardcore" and immediately dismiss you or mock you for not being completely leveled with the best gear. They act like elitists who were never low level players or players who have a life outside of the game. It does kill the community and that is why I don't play COD or even Halo as much as I'd like to, the elitists just make the game un-fun. To me I think of someone as "hardcore" when they avidly play the game and know the in's and out's of how to play and actively participate in the game community regardless of their in game level or status. I'd say most of us who don't play 24x7 would fall into that category but know what is what and participate in the community are "hardcore." Unfortunately the so called "Hardcore" players, "Dude Bro's" as I personally refer to them, don't see it that way. They feel like they should be the only ones that are allowed to play and grace their self granted god like status. Its a total game killer, hence why I typically only play with guys (and gal's) here. This is a great community of like minded individuals (casual and hardcore) who understand that life happens and sometimes we can't dedicate hours on end to raid or play.