Almost posted this to general forums but realized it would be pointless and troll-able.
So I see this all the time now where players rant about being hardcore and despising casual gamers. I feel it is a major community killer where elitists dismiss others with the casual brand. And its annoying because it always seems subjective as to what defines each group. So I was just sort of curious as to how folks out there define each group.
To me it's not about the time played, the gear someone's collected, or the level of completeness achieved for a game. I think it is all about the passion for the gaming hobby. Just because someone doesn't have a schedule that allows 8 hours a day to game doesn't mean that person is any less "hardcore" if they are genuinely having fun and play hard. And the same goes the other way: a person can play 10 hours a day but if they treat it like a job and don't really play to enjoy the game are they really hardcore, or just people with more time on their hands?
I personally get only about 6-8 hours a week if I'm lucky to really kick back and game. This was different when I was younger and logged 12 hour or more days playing WoW and other games. Now when I do play I play for the enjoyment of playing, just as I did back then. And that is different things in different games. Story in some, competition in others. I play just as hard during my few hours now as I did back then I just have less time to do it. I still consider myself hardcore as i have a strong passion for gaming, but I don't let it rule my life which seems to be the common conception of hardcore.
So what are you folks opinions? How do you define these groups and do you feel that one group should be valued more for the other?
I can relate to where you are coming from - having been a 12+ hour a day wow raider from vanilla wow. That and having been a "gamer" before the hardcore idea I think originally stemmed from those who took their gaming seriously versus say "those bros" or others who thought it child's play.
Now though I think it's just kids who worry about terms like "casual" or "hardcore". I mean really, sure, the nightfall is hard but compared to child birth or raising a human! Now that's hardcore!!
I can see someone who makes Destiny or other games their thing. They run 3 characters a do the raid and nightfall on all 3. Their lowest alt has better gear than most and they game more in a day than most of us in a week. They take it seriously and wear their accomplishments with pride. I can respect that. But I think spending the day with a headstrong three year old is more impressive. ;)
I fall in between. My wife and I regulatory play with a good friend of ours. 2-3 hours a night 4-6 days a week. We've not raided, might never, but we worked to get to doing the nightfalls regularly. We work together to gear up and progress and I'd say we are pretty invested. I'd say that's more than someone who is casual in that they just play whenever for fun and don't really care if they ever see any end game content.
Really. If you are having fun, it matters little.
In the end, I think it's quality versus quantity and how serious you are. Like with sports. I'm casual about sports. I'll watch if it's on. I like a few players on a few teams, just football. But I don't follow stats or worry if I miss a game. To me that's casual. But if I miss a daily or weekly in Destiny I'm annoyed.
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