The infinite Crota kneel "cheese" is cheating, plain and simple. You're breaking the network, it's cheating. There's no clever use of game mechanics here, you're just cheating, so don't kid yourself.
Something about the Raids that people don't understand is that they're not supposed to be like fountains of loot or something. Getting stuff from the Raid is the closest Destiny has to actually earning your items. If you can't beat the Raid, whether that's a skill issue or a time issue or a lack of friends to play with issue, that's a YOU problem, that's not Bungie's problem and its nowhere near an excuse to cheat. You do not get a "let's break the game to get our items" option. If you can't beat the Raid, for whatever reason, then that's it, you can't beat the Raid.
You know what happened when I tried the VoG on hard for the first time and got stomped? It motivated me and eventually my friends and I got through it and it was an awesome experience that I'll never forget. Cheating to beat difficult content negates the reason to be playing the difficult content in the first place.
My advice. You'd better learn how to beat the fights legitimately because they're going to be fixed and then what will you do? Complain that it's too hard like the Templar and Atheon after their cheese exploits were fixed.
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To me there is a big difference between the Templar cheese, throwing grenades till he was off the cliff and this internet Crota one. The Crota cheese is cheating. The Templar one was strategic. It wasn't a freebee. You had to fight some for it. Maybe I am wrong here but I think not
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I agree 100%. Raids have essentially been broken by the hardcore grinders and cheesers to trickle down loot. I say it's 100% fair they nerfed the vault of glass gear with the dark below sets because they were ubiquitous and mostly cheesed not earned before the ledge patch was fixed.
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Or its just am issue where you don't feel like dealing with the glitches that bungie has yet to fix and have only caused to get worse in the raids. The regenerating health, only teleporting 1 person, oracles with infinite health, lamps that are active not clearing weight of darkness, gate keepers with infinite health, knights that can OHK through walls, the wizard before crota getting down to half health then auto regent to full, Crota having infinite shields-that was a headache... 4 ghorns could not make him kneel.... But those are just a few. I don't agree with cheesing, I dont like to do it, but honestly bungie shouldn't be upset if this is the quality of their product. At least in WOW raids were fixed and glitches were patched in a decent amount of time... Here we are a few months since launch and VOG has only gotten worse. The way things are going it might be fixed by the time Destiny 2 rolls out.
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So much this.
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Did you just unjustly quote Datto?
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Yes he did...first thing I thought when I read that. He should def have that whole diatribe in quotes and give credit to the person who said it. Nothing like stealing somebody else's thoughts to preach about right and wrong.
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5 stars for you sir