It really sucks to not be able to find a fireteam of 6 who are actually willing to complete the raid legitimately. The raid is fun, but the only part I ever get to play legitimately is the first part. From there, everyone wants to cheese across the bridge. From there, people want to skip the witches and go find a Crota checkpoint. And once there, everyone is either too incompetent to beat him or simply want to cheat. I genuinely don't understand how people could find enjoyment in being handed gear that isn't deserved. It takes you 30 minutes each week to complete the raid (probably with multiple characters) and you have all raid gear within the first 2 weeks. Where is the enjoyment and satisfaction in that? Everyone has the exact same gear, and everyone is sitting around twiddling their thumbs until the next expansion. Those who complete the raid legitimately feel no accomplishment in having gear that every other noob has that can't complete it legitimately. And those who get gear from cheesing...I just can't wrap my head around how you could feel good about it. Nobody benefits from these exploits, so fix them Bungie.