I actually buy most things in person with cash.

I just can't believe you spent the time and effort to write a post telling other people how to behave...... While playing a VIDEO GAME they paid for and want to enjoy during THEIR free time. Do you not think bungie is aware? It's not that easy to fix and I'm sure they are working on them. I am also sure new ones will be discovered. Exploit, legit...who cares? Find a team who wants to do it legit and have fun. Oh, but the problem you have is the other guy got his black hammer by cheesing Crota? While you did it legit? Why do you care? It's like buying a mustang and not going over the speed limit at 3 am on the highway when no one else is around because that's the law.

I'm not telling anyone how to play. We have no idea for certain if bungie was aware of any or all glitches, exploits, and bugs at the time I posted this. It doesn't matter if they bought it. People who play online on video games have little rights. Owning some physical disc doesn't entitle you to anything other then the ability to play. Bungie has the right to limit any content. Bungie has the right to claim any content you make with their game. It's called tos. And exploits break their rules. But it's up to bungie how they handle people. You don't have to like my post. But I'm not breaking any rules. And I'm using the forums for one perpose that they were designed for. So move on if you don't like it. Report me if it makes you feel better.

Take it easy. It's just a game. We get it. It's very important to you that we understand and validate how you feel about it. Besides if your free to post your opinion I'm free to post mine in response. Don't dish it if you can't take it. Oh yeah, unless your an anal lawyer no one gives a shit about tos. Have you ever actual read a tos? Did you read your isp tos before you signed on too? I have not and I'll venture to guess 98% of users playing Destiny haven't either. Shit, I'll bet 98% of bungie staff haven't read their own tos so it's a weak argument to stand on, because it's a damn video game. Lol Do you read the instructions for every game you buy cash before you play or it do you just dive in? Also bungie did know about the exploits, hence no hard raid at launch of dlc. That's obvious.

The only people who need to take it easy are the people who come here to flame me. I've remained clam this entire time. I didn't say you couldn't post. Feel free to continue. I'm simply stating if you don't like what i'm doing you don't have to stick around. Yes I've read TOS before. Not like me telling you that will change your view though. Believe what you want to believe. The only weak argument here is yours. You can't claim ignorance on something you willingly agreed to. Just because the community may not be aware of the rules doesn't mean they are not responsible for their actions. They were given the material to look at to understand the rules. It's their fault and only theirs if they are ignorant to them because they chose not to read. A person is always responsible for their actions. Regardless of the situation. How harshly that person is punished is entirely dependant on the person who's punishing and what law was broken. But it doesn't make a person less guilty. It's not like Bungie randomly made these rules and then never told us. Then you'd have a case. That's not proof. Bungie delayed hard mode so if any bugs/exploits popped up they could hopefully fix them before HM. The only tangible proof of Bungie's awarness would be if they openly posted stating such knowledge. otherwise it's all just guessing.

Do you have any idea how a video game is produced and tested? Of course they know. But the fixes and coding for them take much trial and error. It's not like spell check in word. No rational person gives a shit if people decide to cheese parts of the raid. If they don't want to do it they will simply find a group to do it legit with. Do you see them all posting about the morality of it? I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just saying your entire thread comes across a bit pompous. If bungie left holes to fill, people can fill them. Also since we're binded by this tos... The fact bungie is not banning every cheeser, is admittance that they know about the exploits and do not put the blame on the player. Instead blame the developer. Your ideal is let's punish our paying customers for finding exploits in our game because we didn't have it properly ready before we released it? I wonder how long that business model would last. In the end it's who gives a shit? It's a game. Play it how YOU want. You don't like the way people play, move along. No one is going to hold it against you. Also have you really not even tried the Crota raid yet?! Let me know when, crota is really easy to beat- legit. Just ask the legend himself.

~ Again doesn't mean anything. Halo MCC launched with some horrendous things that make you wonder how it got passed internal testing. Just because they do internal testing doesn't mean they catch everything. Faulty logic. ~Not trying to attack me but you are indirectly calling me irrational. nice. ~Faulty logic again. Bungie could have banned people for the loot cave. They didn't. Just because it's against TOS doesn't mean Bungie HAS to ban people. It only means they can. Them not banning people yet doesn't mean anything. Lack of information doesn't equal information. When did I ever blame the player? I never once suggested we punish exploiters. Unless you count fixing the exploits as punishing. ~I've never gotten past Ir yut because my team hasn't been able to do enough damage do to their levels yet. But as i've stated before me playing the raid or not doesn't change what these bugs or exploits are. Nor does it make them any less legitamate.

Would you tell someone how to drive the Ferrari they bought? Or more accurately that they are not driving it the way Ferrari intended? Or would you correct them because in the past everyone has driven the Nuremberg this way and this guy did it differently? Your attitude is it's Bungies world we are agreeing to pay to play in and they are Sauron who can correct us sheep at any moment if we don't follow the said law. I feel like you read the TOS at every Destiny logon and say a prayer to follow it in fear of Bungie banning you. I guess my real question is why do you give a shit?

Lol cash, the fabled "tangible" currency

Not sure why tangible is in quotes when it surely can be held in your hand...

The internet.