so it was basically a troll post then?? i do agree tho, this forum is a horrible place. i keep saying to myself i should stop coming here to read stuff. its strange tho, the vast majority of people i have played destiny with online have been great and my friends list has grown massively in the last few months. but coming here you would think destiny players are the total opposite of how i have experienced them. i love the game, its pretty much all i have played since release, yet i cheese. i think the reason for this is because the loot system can suck arse, if you cheese and get nothing but crap its no big deal, but if you spend a lot of time/effort to get sod all in decent drops repeatedly it can get very frustrating! in my opinion the new raid is lazy and shoddy, yes im fully aware not every aspect can be tested, but it seems like very little testing went into the new raid, its bungie you should be mad at, not the community!!