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Edited by XiX GhOsTx XiX:
1/10/2015 8:38:29 PM
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I have a question, as do many of my friends. Maybe you can shed some light (see what I did there?) on it.
If we kill Crota's soul during 'The Wakening' how is it that he is alive and well during the raid?
My personal theory is that by killing his soul it prevented him from moving off the moon and invading earth and that his soul was only one 'piece' of him, then we do the raid and finish off his physical form / the rest of him.
If that's not the case, then that seems to be a gaping hole in the story?
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Edited by Twitch.TV/Ghostbuddy: 1/11/2015 4:46:44 AMBeginning of the universe ----->Hive emerge from evolution, creation, or another universe----->Leaders become biologically immortal, Hive go back in time and pollinate primordial worlds around the universe with Hive--- Darkness consumes universe, Hive thrive --- near the end of the universe the Darkness sends the leaders of the Hive into the distant past to hibernate in secret. Gifting the Hive leaders "DURABILITY" and making them lesser gods. The Crota in The Wakening is a future version of Crota, the law of continuity prevents Guardians from truly killing Crota in the present or past until they prevent future Crota from causing any effects. Even if present Crota is in another dimension, immune to our fluctuating continuity, future Crota can merely take past Crotas place if we kill him. When we kill present crota, the future crota we killed becomes a hologram, a collection of virtual particles existing for continuities sake, a philosophical zombie because we prevented his future. Had future Crota significantly affected the past, then he may have been more durable, and significantly harder to unravel. Crota and his ilk are nothing compared to the old gods: Darkness, Light, Balance and Fate.
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Well Eris if I recall says you banish his soul, not kill it which would then allow us to be able to kill him, but I could be wrong
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I agree with that theory. we kill Crota's Soul, Hands, Eyes, Heart and Blades, so by killing his Physical presence he is defeated forever.
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From my understanding, Crota is some kind multi-dimensional being in that he can co-exist across multiple dimensions at the same time. Little snippet from his grimoire card: "Whispered lore and fragmentary theories suggest that Crota represents a distinct class of Hive entities, not resident in our material world. My latest synthesis of this scattered esoterica suggests that Crota's 'home' is a universe created or remade by his power and occupied by Hive organisms of immense age." So your theory seems correct for the most part. We banished the Crota of our universe but he still existed in his 'home' universe, thus not truly defeating him. We then traveled into Crota's 'home' universe and killed his true form, thus banishing him in all universes that he would exist.
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To add on! Its most likely the same plane if existence as other gods of the pantheon. Crota is only the son of oryx, which we know little about other than the hive had communicated with him from afar
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This.
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He uses horcruxes
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I feel like Eris is bad. Corrupted by the hive (she's turning into one) she has us destroy his soul, or the crystal he's in to release his soul. That way he can take form in the raid. I believe the giant Skelton in the wakening is how large crota was. When you fight him in the raid before he appears you see a large fire form of his face. I think that's how big he once was. The crota you fight is just a ghostly figure. Again this is just me stretching while I wait for bungie to up the story.
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Edited by HobbitMaster12: 1/10/2015 8:48:40 PMDuring the wakening we banished his soul, Crota is a god-like thing, he was sent back to his realm where the raid takes place. When Crota is destroyed in the raid he is definitively destroyed, apparently this was the only sure way to kill Crota.
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Right, basically you just said what I theorized above, just in better terms lol
