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Edited by ImYoDaaaddy: 1/11/2015 5:40:37 AM
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Pretty accurate, I think. However, you missed the parts about The Last Word and Jaren Ward. Jaren Ward was a hunter who was (presumably) the original owner of The Last Word. He arrives in Palamon, which is a village outside the City's walls, and encounters a (again, presumably) young Shin Malphur. Magistrate Loken runs the place and tries to get Jaren killed in a standoff with 9 soldiers. However, Jaren kills Loken and proceeds to take in some guys later on to hunt down a dangerous Guardian (which we later find out is Dredgen Yor). Shin is a part of that group (not yet a Guardian). They finally track Yor down, and decide to rest for the night before confronting him. However, Jaren decides to go alone and they have a standoff at Dwindler's Ridge, with Yor killing Jaren. Shin waits for Jaren's return to the camp while the rest of his group start leaving one by one. Not too long after, he hears the shots of something "hushed, cutting" (Thorn) and starts to believe that Jaren was killed. Inevitably, his Ghost comes back to the camp, sees Shin, and presumably transforms him into the Renegade Hunter. Shin Malphur then takes his revenge by killing Dredgen Yor with The Last Word at Dwindler's Ridge. Also, legendary Hunter Pahanin Errata was the creator of Super Good Advice, AFTER he spoke and learned of Kabr's trials in the VoG. He became afraid of ever being alone in the wilderness again, so he created a self-aware heavy machine gun. There was also legendary Titan Wei Ning, who was a part of the crusade on the Moon, ultimately being killed by Crota. This may have had some effect on Eriana-3, an Exo warlock who was a part of Eris' ill-fated fireteam. She swore to get revenge for "her-them" (and she specifically saw visions of Wei Ning, who is a female, dead on Crota's blade when she tortured a captured Wizard). All of the stuff above is fairly unimportant but I think interesting, and might be good to include in your otherwise accurate theory :)
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  • There is a ton of confusion over the Jaren Ward/Dredgen Yor/Shin Malphur/Last Word/ Thorn. But the most reasonable explanation "imo" is that Jaren Ward arrives at Palamon (idk what reason) and then everyone comes to view him. Young Shin Malphur comes to get a close look and Jaren Ward offers him the Last Word. (I think he did this because he already had Thorn at this time) Young Shin Malphur refuses, but like he said, it wasn't the last time he held it. As the Thorn slowly corrupts him, Jaren Ward turns into Dredgen Yor, (I think this because they both we're considered beacons of hope, but it says that Dredgen Yor is the "first and last descendant of the name Yor" during this transformation. (Also if you think of it Dredgen Yor and Jaren Ward kinda sounds similar) Dredgen Yor starts killing random townies of Palamon, and Magistrate Loken takes this into notice. Then Loken, and his nine men, confront Jaren Ward/Dredgen Yor, everyone thought that it was just because Magistrate Loken was corrupted, as Shin Malphur notes, he remembers the Last Word being lightweight, so it wasn't the first day Jaren Ward came he was confronted. Corrupted Jaren Ward kills the ten people and probably massacre the rest of the town (not in the time ofc) except Shin Malphur. Shin Malphur probably trains himself (because he wasn't even born a Guardian) and then confronts and kills Dredgen Yor on Dwindler's Ridge. Also I believe this is how it went down because if Dredgen Yor killed Jaren Ward, it would cause an uproar, because Shin Malphur said that he was one of the very best Guardians out there, and if he was murdered, it would've been mentioned more. BUT YES AGAIN, this is all opinion.

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  • I think you're almost on point with this. The change I would make is that Jaren actually transformed at the Ridge into Yor and faked his death so the name Jaren Ward wouldn't be tarnished and he could leave a beacon of hope behind as a last good act before changing into Dredgen Yor. Shin Malphur watches as Jaren Ward removes a despot leader / dictator and doesn't kill everyone - only the one guy is killed by Ward. Then they begin traveling as his deed (to purge the cities corruption) was completed. During the travels Ward understand he must leave his student behind and stages his death (mentioned above) to spur Shin Malphur onto a righteous path. If you review the Thorn cards it mentions both Dredgen Yor and Jaren Wards names in the scramble section alluding to the fact he was alive beyond the transformation on the ridge. Again like you said it is speculation and I'm only offering my perspective; doesn't mean that I'm 100% correct.

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  • Excellent. I was curious who Eriana was referring to. I thought it was Omar Agah at first as he was the first one to die during Eris' raid on Crota (or was it Said Moto first? Unsure)

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  • Hope he adds this in!

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