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1/13/2015 11:31:50 AM
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Hawkmoon Vs Thorn/TLW
So naturally playing on Xbox One I don't have the privilege to obtain Hawkmoon yet. So to the players who own both Hawkmoon and another exotic hand cannon, what makes Hawkmoon superior or just a great hand cannon in general? Both Thorn and TLW are PvP beasts for their own reasons, checked out the perks for Hawkmoon and initially they don't look that great, from what I understand at first you have one bullet that causes extra damage then later you get a perk that has this affect on an additional two bullets, the rest seem like general perks but I think it has hammer forged too right? Also numerically can someone tell me how much extra damage these bullets cause in both PvP and PvE. Thanks.
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1 ReplyIf you know how good Fatebringer is its stats were modeled after Hawkmoon. Besides, Hawkmoon hits hard, has great range, and a clear sight. Ever since I've had one, I've never used the other exotic hand cannons.
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1 ReplyEdited by Alecazzzam: 1/30/2015 12:58:53 PMThe last word on smaller, more confined maps. Hawkmoon anywhere else Thorn if you want to be a cheap prick
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Thorn and Hawkmoon are about equal. Last Word beats them at close range. The extra damage bullets do 33% more (or thereabouts), meaning with Aggressive Ballistics selected, you're hitting headshots at about 94 in Crucible and 124 for a bonus damage bullet headshot. I think it was 64 per body shot and 80 with the extra damage. I do prefer Hawkmoon over Thorn though because I find it much smoother and easy to handle But here's the fun part, those extra damage bullets have a somewhat rare chance of occurring in one bullet, meaning you do well over 200 damage on a headshot, which is an instant kill. Another nice thing about it is the stats are all-around amazing. Every weapon in this game is built to have trade offs, like high rate of fire, but low impact, high impact, but low rate of fire, etc. Hawkmoon is good at everything, great range, great damage (it's actually equal in damage to Timur's Lash, despite the actual impact stat being lower when comparing the bars), but it's rate of fire is fast, it's very stable, and it's reload speed is good. Not to mention it's basically a pocket sniper with the range perk. It also has speed reload, which I find more useful in Crucible, since encounters rarely reach the limit of its range.
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120-210 in guesstamting but the 200 is rare its usaully 120 to 160 for the extra damage to be honest i say the weapon is as good as thorn (I have all three) depends on your play style plus hawkmoon just, for me feels awesome there is a possibility to have a one shot kill which when it happens is amazing and it can kill a little faster then thorn if you get all the damage out, or if you get one of the three bullets to hit its an instant two shot also a beast in pvp but i end up using my ice breaker or ghorn more in pve
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4 RepliesHawkmoon makes my ears hurt. It wrecks, but I can't use it for long periods. Throrn and the crucible HC - TFWIALPKYQQRWYTAI are much more gentle on the eardrums.
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Edited by 無い: 1/30/2015 3:50:19 AMThorn is #1 if you actually like to aim your weapon and hit the target
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1 ReplyThorn is a beast but I can't stand the sights. They're too raised up off of the weapon and I find it more difficult to chain headshots than with my Venation III, Fatebringer, etc. Still praying for my Hawkmoon.
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6 RepliesThorn and hawkmoon are on pretty even ground, with the slight advantage going to hawkmoon in my opinion. Hawkmoon has 4 extra rounds per magazine, three of which can do extra damage. What some people don't know is that this "lucky round" perk can stack on a single shot, occasionally resulting in a 220+ damage PvP headshot (one-shot kill). Hawkmoon also has slightly better stability, impact and range. Thorn's DoT makes it so it's a guaranteed two-shot headshot kill, whereas hawkmoon only has a chance to two- or one-shot kill. The damage ticks are also useful for tracking enemies on screen if they take cover/try to escape. I'm strictly talking about PvP because I mainly only use these in PvP. I prefer hawkmoon but thorn is just as viable an option.
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4 RepliesEdited by ThrKingLion: 1/30/2015 3:14:50 AMSimple: PvP Hawkmoon PvE Thorn http://youtu.be/6PEI9ZHRZBU
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PVE: Hawkmoon PVP: The Last Word
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HAWKMOOOOOOOON!
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12 RepliesThorn wins
