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Edited by Trezomnar: 1/15/2015 9:56:49 PM
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People quitting Destiny and what might help...

I'm addressing this to anyone that feels so inclined to comment or read...but also to DeeJ. I'm hoping that I'll get some response that I can take back to my clan to show that we have much more to look forward to (I realize he can't make promises but just the notion that he's listening I think would help). It's a titch long, so please bear with me. I am currently in the middle of a Hangouts discussion with the majority of my clan and the general consensus is the same as some of those on these forums: We need more. Without it, the repetition is going to push us out. Our discussion started with one clan member stating that he's tired of doing the same missions. He enjoys playing with us but there's no reason to really grind anything because the next DLC will allow him to just purchase his way to the top again. I think he has a truly valid point. The other main topic is a lack of new areas to explore or missions to do. The patrols are pretty repetitive and the spawn points for the enemies are always the same with pretty much the same enemies each time. Based on this discussion, I submit to Bungie a list questions/feedback in order to help keep my entire clan active (and others, I imagine). 1. I realize that you're likely hard at work on the next dlc...but why not slowly add new areas or even a planet as part of an update? Maybe a part of the Reef is now playable? I don't even think it'd need to be a set in stone mission but just an area to explore. Or open up more in Old Russia. The point is, we are generally pve players and we love exploring. Let us do so. Remove the invisible walls and let us climb around, find new caves and spaces...maybe even be able to set up our own base of operations somewhere (whether it's the tower or somewhere else). 2. Are there any plans to do more with the ships? We like them, though we do make fun of the lack of variety and colors. I see people all over the forums asking for more than just a loading screen. Maybe the ships can give us buffs? Like if you have the Ketch Me If You Can, you get a boost to agility. 3. Don't let people buy their way to the next light levels...PLEASE. This is something that we feel should be earned just as it was when the game originally came out. There could be a few ways to do it, but it shouldn't be terribly easy. This game is about "becoming legend". To be a legend, you must do something legendary. We feel that the raid gear tweak that is supposed to prevent you from getting duplicates is great. I bet more people would attempt the raids if they felt the loot was worthwhile and not a 50/50 of shards versus yet their 4th set of gauntlets (true story). 4. Add reforging through something like the gunsmith so that we don't need to regrind our old weapons/armor each time a new DLC comes out. Heck, while we're at it, why not add a bunch of new perks and let us design our own weapons/armor (within reason)? Is there a reason why such a futuristic world doesn't have tracking bullets? Or a gun that you can post as a sentry weapon? Or an attachment to your ghost that allows it to assist in the fight? 5. Speaking of ghosts, let us do more with them. Right now, they are becoming a joke. Let us personalize them more. I see so much potential with this sci-fi world that it boggles me that our ghost is a flashlight when he feels like it and a lockpick. Honestly, we are loud enough while we fight...why aren't we just blasting doors open and using the ghost to augment our abilities? 6. Lastly, we are a clan of ~13 or so. Generally, there are 5-7 of us on at any given point. This means that we can't all play together consistently though we really want to. We are asking that there be some mode of patrol or difficulty on the stages that permits us to have a larger fireteam. Yes, I know the raid fits 6...but there are only 2 raids. Even if there was a hardcore mode for the strikes that'd be great. Maybe Sepiks Prime could have 3 devil walkers guarding his door and he has 4x the health. I don't know... Again, we love the game. It is great and has so much potential but we're starting to waver. Thanks, Trez Edit 1: Thanks to everyone for the comments. I am a fan of constructive criticism so i appreciate all of the meaningful input that has been contributed. I remain hopeful that DeeJ will see this or a thread like it and give us some good feedback on what the top discussions are at their table. Or, at least, just a nod to say he'll bring these items up.

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    • Sounds good hope they add it slowly in updates like u said Love the idea

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    • All I got to say is it's just a freaking video game.........

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      • Very well written! It sounds like a lot but if they want to be the true definition of next gen then they have to deliver. Truth is repetitive content is a killer which is why we gamers need content coming out on the continual bases in order to keep it fresh. That's hard to do but I believe we'd be paying out wazoo if DLC like the Dark Below was coming every two months. I'm mean c'mon you guys have an entire universe to expand on don't say it can't be done.

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        • Repetition pushed me out.. went from playing every night a week to 3 nights to 2 and... Done!

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        • When I started playing this game I made a huge amount of friends in a matter of days. When I get online, I notice most of these friends are no longer playing destiny. They play other games, such as Diablo, the last of us remastered, shadow of moron. I think the Developers need to wake up and realize they are slowly losing their players due to the serious lack of content this game has. I'm still around because I don't have time to play and grind as much as others which means I still have plenty to do but the players with more time on their hands definitely ran out of things to do. At least if there was more variety in the crucible this wouldn't be so much if an issue... Vehicle maps are needed. That was what I loved about big team battle in halo reach.

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        • Their is no vault space for a while now and I would like to know what does it take for bungie reps to make this change in the game it just doesn't make any sense to me sorry guys

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          • DeeJ doesn't give a -blam!-

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            • Bungie and Activision defrauded us, and many liked. They do not give a shit what you say, sorry.

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              • Bump I agree. @Those Who are telling people to quit- I feel ever since I bought the Xbox One, everything with it has been a disappointment, and at the top of that list, is Destiny. The games you can download for FREE are showing more potential than the effort theyre putting into this game. The game was fun at first, but now its just boring. What do you gain from people quitting? If they see that nobody is playing this game anymore, the little amount of effort that had to begin with becomes even LESS because who will be here to want to play it? It effects you more than you know. People complaining about the game shows that they still at least care and want improvement. Its when people stop complaining that has me worried, and I feel that may happen much sooner that anticipated. Something as simple as a new weekly event aside from "iron banner" and "queens" would keep people from wanting to quit. Who can blame them, they hyped this game up so much more than what it is. Im not down to buying a new DLC for $20-$40 every couple of months just to find it interesting for a few days before that all too familiar "square one" re-occurs. This game makes so much money... If they really care about what their fans wanted, they would fork out a couple of million dollars at most to add a free expansion onto the game. But, let's be honest, I'd rather stuff my pockets too. Yea, I could just play a different game, but I got more important things to burn money on then "game hopping". ...back what the initial thread post, I agree with a lot of things you just said. I've seen so many GREAT ideas here, some much better than what you've come up with, yet they were put up on the shelf to collect dust too. Bungie is watching the game closer than you think, but they don't care about our opinions. Said to say, but don't get your hopes up.

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                • In regards to the leveling, if it wasn't depended on armor I would agree with you. But since it is and rng is a heartless bitch to most is why I don't agree with your leveling concept. If the they said the cap was 60( just to throw a number out there) and you could find armor that would give a boost then I would agree .

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                  • An excellent post. We are also a small clan, 5 of us (though it only shows 4 just now). There are many improvements we have discussed, one is certainly regarding the ships. At present they are window dressing for load screens and as you say the variety just isnt there. If you think of games like Fifa, strange comparison I know, but it has a "playable" load screen, penalties, free kicks etc. One idea we though of was that as you travel to each destination you have to fly your ship, completing various "mini games". Some initial ideas were: 1) Dodging/shooting asteroids. 2) Shooting attacking enemy ships. 3) Picking up resources for the Tower/city. There does not have to be any real purpose to this "mini game", it could give you a little glimmer, or depending on the planet, spirit bloom, spin metal, relic iron, helium filaments. Essentially something to break the monotony. Further than this we also feel further worlds and playable areas need to be released. We fully expect there will be in due course (but are stronglly against having to pay too much for this). So another idea we had was to have entire story missions in your ship, or predominantly in your ship, and while we are at it in other types of vehicle, tanks etc. Its a big step away from fps but its not so outlandish, think of games like Cod, Battlefield, Halo, these had missions that were not just fps, they involved flying jets or tanks etc. Again, this could bring variety and something new to spice Destiny up. We have plenty of more ideas where these came from lol! Cheers.

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                    • Why can't I use my ghosts light in patrol or the raid or a strike?! Ha

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                      • The only point I would argue against is 3. This may have already been said so sorry if I'm repeating but nothing has changed in regards to the light level you are able to buy your way to. Previously you could purchase lvl 29 gear when the max was 30 and now its purchase lvl 31 gear and the max is 32. I doubt that will change as it's worked so far.

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                        • For lack of story, lack of content and a game that is more heavily PvP focused than I realized are the reasons I will wait after house of wolves

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                        • I have posted on other threads about bungie adding content in between Dlcs's. I would say number one increase the patrol team sizes. It would be better to meet on a planet to do raids, and imagine your clan collecting to do a raid and the sky darkens signalling a public event. I was also thinking if they took the upper area, where Iron Banner is, and converted it into an upper level guardians area. I was thinking anyone can go in but nothing should be purchased until level 25. Increase the tower from 16 to 32 to help allow for bigger clans to congregate. Include a ghost smith that allows the customization and the purchase of mods for the ghost. Since in my mind I feel the ghost is the one actually doing the "ammo Synthesis" integrate that inventory along with the telemetry into the HUD when the ghost button is pressed. I have many ideas for this upper area that would add a fresh feel to the tower but i'm not here to hijack your thread

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                          • Great post, bump! I have also posted similar ideas as well, I hope there are more players willing to add positive feed back and disregard the negative trolls.

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                            • Edited by Sarden: 1/16/2015 11:12:42 AM
                              You know what I love, you're -blam!-ing grabbing shit from other games like World of Warcraft and bringing those ideas here. Go play World of Warcraft and leave Destiny alone, if the developers wanted this game to be like every other game they would make it so. Destiny is Destiny and other games are other games, if you and your clan mates quit no one would give a -blam!-, one less nerd taking up useless space on these forums is a great thing. You want this game to be like a second job, grind this for so long and do X raid for Y weeks to finally get Z loot, no dude I have a girlfriend and a daughter a career and friends. I also have a social life outside of Destiny so me "buying" my way to the top sounds good to me, just because all you do is play more than someone like me doesn't mean you get to have all the best shit, you're not a special sunflower, your mom lied welcome to planet earth. Try going outside and interacting with society a bit more.

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                              • Regarding your mention of sepiks prime, all he had to do to win was not open the door. 1/ Love the idea, nothing like seeing these massive and admittedly beautiful environments that we can't go to.... Adding any kind of content would increase the life of the game. 2/ Regarding ships, Honestly if all they were going to be was a cosmetic alteration to the lobby or loading screen then they could've made em look nicer. Considering the number of weapons or exhausts that they clearly have then i have to believe that they were intended for more. 3/ Buying better gear to reach higher levels... Bungie really shafted themselves with the leveling technique. Honestly of two minds about it, Yes those who do the raids and high end-game content deserve better equipment, at the same time those who don't have time to do much more than a daily each week have a right to some as well. Truly, VoG and CE should be both end-game, VoG shouldn't be invalidated by DLC1 vendor gear nor should CE be invalidated by DLC2 vendor gear. Core Story should be lvl 1-30 with VoG and CE being 30+ with gear that is better than standard vendor while still allowing people to play all of standard game without requiring Raid gear. Really believe that bungie haven't thought the 20+ leveling process and DLC increase to max level through. 4/ Honestly don't know why that guy is called a gunsmith, think they may have let his head get to large... some kind of reforging or improvement process that the gunsmith could be part of would be great. There have been a few weapons and armors that i love despite the relatively low level but can't use them because weapons are too weak or the armors don't have enough/any light on them and would render me unable to play certain aspects of this game. 5/ Ghosts/pet/lightbulb/jinx/PoS, i'm guessing there will be more sorts of ghost cosmetics, afterall the special edition gave one, something that actually makes them useful would be even better. There are some very dark parts of the game where a torch would be very handy, in many cases darker than the scripted spots where he will turn on. 6/ I imagine that reason for small fireteams has more to do with networks and limitations of the console/s playing it. However the pvp shows that some increase should be possible, and don't see why we couldn't have larger groups in some missions or patrols.

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                                • Nobody cares if you turds quit. Bungie wants people to play their new content asap, so buying your way to the new light level is the only way to do that. Plus, it probably took me longer to get the gear I have now, than it did for you to cheese that raid gear you have... So stfu. My gear looks better than yours, and my perks match my load out. Thus, I'm better than you. You are not special.

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                                  • I'm sorry but this game was a joke. I know that's juts my opinion but even with the expansion it feels like a 1/3 of a game. I really wanted to like but the content is static nothing changes. Same spawns locations and rates. Everything is on a static timer. The dlc is a joke for 20. I pre ordered the DLC, which I will never do again, so I haven't traded it in yet. Even Atheon and crota are barely re skinned normal enemies. They need to give comet as part of the Season Pass...

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                                  • Are you high? How is buying vendor gear, so you can do the new raid, bad? Its funny because your stats indicate you have cheesed the raid more than once. You guys should change that clan name to Cheese Humpers.

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                                    • Lol raid gear tweak my ass. I've gotten 8 dogged cage and 4 will breakers fists

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                                      • Bump

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                                      • I like how everyone complains about being able to buy gear for 31, yet you all have cheesed the raid more than once. Also, some of you cheesed it with three of the same class. Its so funny, what a bunch of looooosers.

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