[quote]Joe wrote Halo. So no Bungie no Halo and no Marty no Halo theme.[/quote]So? George Lucas created Star Wars, and he later went on to screw up with the prequels. [quote]Yes they were a few glitches and such in the early Halos but for the most part i think they still stand on there own.[/quote]I'm not really looking at the glitches. In fact, I dare say they contributed to Halo's success to an extent. [quote]Things got better each time with the mechanics. ODST and Reach were really good in that department.[/quote]Actually, I'd argue they got progressively worse. Halo 2 had an unfinished campaign and [i]extremely[/i] casualized multiplayer. Halo 3 had an oversimplified story with logical errors and character discrepancies and a few plot hole. The multiplayer made some strides in the right direction but ultimately failed with the addition of randomness and a poor FOV. Reach went even further with Armor Abilities and Bloom, amping up the randomness to a ridiculous level [quote]One Budget Cuts or Two Joe seen Destiny as a mutant unlike the Bungie made Halos. [/quote]Actually, neither. He left either for his stated reason, or the community hypothesis of him not wanting to deal with his work after they got rid of his work when they scrapped the original story.