For nerfing my favorite weapon class, handcannons in no way needed a nerf in [b]PVE[/b] why not just give the needed range debuff in pvp alone? Most engagements in PVE are mid to long.
Why not fix the kids cheesing the raid you guys "fixed", or maybe the heavy ammo bug, or mayhaps fixing the black hammer and word of crota? Maybe more vault space? Or all the glitches in the crota raid? Instead we get a weapons patch because of PVP players bitching?
I agree pulse rifles needed a buff, it should have been done months ago when you guys did nothing. Auto rifles are worthless in pve now and after the patch even more so. (Necro even more so)
Edit: keep replying guys maybe deej will see this post and change his mind!!!
Edit: maybe Deej will see this keep em coming!
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Edit: we are trending guys. I appreciate all the trolls, and the "deej is the community manager" comments without you we couldn't have done it. Maybe Deej will see this. And relay the message
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Edited by Animal Mother: 2/6/2015 3:36:42 PMI don't get it either. Of all the things wrong with this game and Bungie is "fixing" weapons to make the pvp players happy? Well only a select few anyway pvp players anyway... Why didn't they remove orbs from pvp instead? They're claiming that this weapon tuning makes the game fair yet their rng system is the most unfairest fair rng system I've ever encountered. The VOG is still extraordinarily glitchy. Their servers suck sorry ass and are more than likely responsible for the VOG and CE glitches. The loot drops have become an absolute joke. All I ever get is shit now. Ascendant materials are still being rewarded for completing Nightfalls despite Bungie having made them totally irrelevant to any player who is level 31 and up (which probably makes up a large portion of players who play the Nightfall). The new leveling system for the cryptarch, factions, vanguard, and crucible is a joke. Bungie claimed that while it would take longer to level them up, the rewards would be better. Bullshit, the rewards always suck. I've got about 20 commendations (crucible and vanguard combined) and may never use them. In those 20 level ups I've got zero useful rewards. The cryptarch, same shit. I'm level 50 something and never get anything useful from his level up packages. Sure I may get a legendary engram from him every now and again but those turn into shards or shit weapons with shit perks. We should arrange a Bungie boycott until our concerns for this game are addressed. Deej didn't even allow comments on his update page. What does that tell me? It tells me that Bungie doesn't give one fat -blam!- if we like their stupidity or not. Oh yeah and Xur, -blam!- Xur. I'll buy my heavy synth.. Wait, actually I'll use the heavy ammo glitch for heavy ammo.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Je29zLtYyGw
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You do know that Deej had nothing to do with nerfing Hand Cannons don't you? He does gather data from the community though, and bring them to the developers. The nerf won't be that nori blue either. I can tell you that in the Crucible I can literally snipe with Thorn so the range is a little too high.
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Let be real though. If they fixed the raid then people would complain about them not fixing other issues, when they fix those issuse people complain about the raid. And Deej is not in charge of Bungie stop pinpointing him for doing his job, all your doing is shooting the messenger.
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Did anyone look at the stats? Scout and pulse together made up less than 5% of crucible kills.
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Yes @Git Gud Scub hand cannons are getting a nerf...but a nerf to effective range? Is that seriously a bad thing? I feel dirty picking off snipers with my hand cannon. It should never have worked that way. Bungie's mistake was letting us get used to HC's like that, not fixing them to what they intended.
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Edited by Dukaness: 2/6/2015 3:15:37 PMThis is definitely DeeJ's fault. The $500 million dollar budget is his personal income. He is responsible for developing story, game play, multiplayer and being the community manager, as well as crunching weapon statistics and fixing all cheeses and glitches. Bungie just released a statement saying they are changing their name to DeeJ Logic Corporation. Yeah, definitely DeeJ's fault. You should keep attacking this one guy.
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Once again, Bungie, epic fail for not separating PVP from PVE. Now, more weapons are going to be ruined to find that precious "balance" in PVP. You really need to find a way to nerf PVP load outs only, and leave PVE alone. Maybe you can get it right with Destiny 2, and make PVP a completely separate system, with it's own character leveling, weapons, armor, etc... Epic fail, Bungie. Epic fail. Way to continue to ruin the game for PVE players. What a joke.
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Love the update. Seriously, they buffed my favorite weapon
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Do you honestly think Deej masterminded the nerfs? Really? Also, Hand Cannons' range is being nerfed slightly. Big deal.
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The community manager needs to STEP UP and relay the frustrations of the players. Trying to pigeon hole us into a which weapon they want us to use is absolute BS. PVP GAME PLAY SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING ANYTHING. PVP is a bonus to the core game IMO. Get your shit together. #deej
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Okay I love my handcannons ... But dude let's face it... They needed a range nerf . They are not scout rifles.. Not should they shoot as far...: on that not I believe they should have nerfed auto rifles even more than they say they are....the flinch effect from auto rifles need to be taken away from a distance
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Thanks for op'ing juju. Warlocks now are op. I love it.
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Im literally OVER the BLANKET NERFS due to PVP gameplay. THIS IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. The idea that all guns should be used equally is absolute bullshit as well. There is always going to be a favored weapon. Trying to 'control' who uses which weapon is a socialist mentality. My game play has dropped considerably over the last month. This NERF truck is NOT doing Bungie ANY favors.
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Bumpitee
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The edits are hilarious. Think Deej will see this and make changes (or even ask for them, that's all he can really do)? We had posts with upwards of 5,000 replies that sat at the top of this forum for weeks and had no changes or a reply from Deej. He cares, but Bungie is gonna do it their way. If that isn't obvious already, I don't know how much further away Bungie can go from what we want for you to see it.
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Blam Deej, he has no power over these problems we face in this game. This game is bullshit. Bungie have gone too arrogant and too big for their boots.
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Why trash deej? Nothing is deej's fault. He's just the guy who has to break the news to us.
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Deal with it.
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Theu just making it so you need more skill and cant be carried by guns in pve and pvp fatebringer has range high impact and a decent shot speed the shit is op handcannons were due a nerf
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Patch seems good .... More balance to weapons I have always thought you should never be able to take on and out shoot a scout at distance with a hand cannon Some love may now be found for pulse is good Range reduction or more spread on fusions stops them hitting at stupid range I think this now separates the weapon classes more and has defined boundaries. No more oh I will chuck a cannon on and play at all ranges. Players with have at adapt game play in accordance to weapon choice especially pvp ( or that is my hope anyway )
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They did not need nerf the other classes, just buff the Pulse Rifles and shotguns in PvE.
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I'm sick of them addressing things that arent a real issue. No one complained about these weapon values. We have tons of other shit we voice our displeasure about.. Was any of that fixed? No? Well, par for the course. I'm very close to being done with this. The gameplay is fun as always, but I'm tired of Bungie tweaking insignificant shit, and turning a blind eye to what we are outright begging/asking for.