1. yes there are and "extreme stupidness or a complete desolation of a story or characters" is a bit extreme... its not like this is ride to hell: retribution. 2. i have, they are good, but that argument is about as usefull as a wet match in a dark cave. just because other games are good doesn't mean people can't like destiny. for someone not trying to antagonize you where being rather antagonistic, for lack of better phrasing, there. as far as expecting a opus magnum, if i have seen anything at all these past 6-ish years, its that people have no ability to temper expectations, heaven help us when half life 3 actually comes out, the over reaction and hate may actually cause the internet itself to spontaneously combust and i'll agree it was lacking a good bit in the actual delivery of the story and that none of the characters have much "emotion", its still a good game. but thats just my opinion. like i said before, it boils own to peronal opinion, and the dislike of a story doesn't mean it isn't there. i would say not many people complain this hard about CoD's story but from what i can gather playing CoD for the story is like watching a michael bay movie for the good directing.