See THAT is amazing! I actually did a little comparison at one point just with the basic stats of the guns (vendor cannons and TLW and Thorn)...............adding up the stats for, impact, rate of fire, range, stability and reload. If you sum up the total (number value) of each stat, TDYD is like the highest stat hand cannon available.............but the vendor version just has zero potential because of it's mag size/perks, so sad:(