I am in a kind of similar, but the guys I raid with are not elite assholes, quite the opposite actually. They helped me by letting me join them in raids. They know exactly what they are doing and who is doing what. They get it done fast and I have a great time. I try to learn what I can from them and I try to do what I can whenever I can and do what they need me to do. Some of the best dudes I have ever met.
Just in the interest of time it's hard to learn how to do the relic because we are all adults and most of them are 7 hours ahead at least. Just got in with a new group though so I'll be doing the relic more often for sure. Already am doing the sword in crota.
It's just irritating the post bitching about how these people cannot do this or those people are always doing that and they usually are narrow minded views the OP has of the situation. It usually comes down to "well, if I can do it, everyone else should be able to" and they use their personal life as the only reference.
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