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originally posted in:Sapphire
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7/16/2013 6:24:03 AM
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Should you be forced to learn the native language when you migrate?
I'm not exactly sure what my opinion on this is, because of course I think that everyone should be able to communicate with each other, but it's an unfair and very hard requirement to place on someone (especially if you're talking about refugees). I'm hoping I could get better insight into this from you guys.
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I feel like people naturally make that effort. No law is needed. The only time's we see foreigners fail to make the effort is when they're segregated into their own communities. Then, speaking their common tongue only makes sense. I don't think we can blame them for failing to learn a language they don't need.
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forced sounds bad. But it should be supplied to them if they want
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You should at least make an effort to learn it. Not doing so can only be a disadvantage.
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Yes because I don't want to order a donut at Tim Hortons and get a -blam!-ing box of timbits
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1 ReplyOk who keeps necrobumping shit from 2013
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5 RepliesYes I think you should. I'm so tired of these mexicans "immigrating" here and they don't learn English while the majority of them leach of the govt. You go to a store and can't even find an employee that speaks English. You have to be -blam!-ing kidding me
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Edited by Tuxx: 7/31/2015 5:15:37 AMEh, I don't think they should [i]have[/i] to, but by moving to a place where you don't speak the native language you're bound to run into some issues. That's a person's choice though. Through immersion a person will likely learn enough to get by should they need to communicate to a native speaker.
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Edited by Nox: 7/31/2015 7:49:33 AMNo because English is a universal language and if you dont know it you're a dumb piece of shit who didnt pay attention in school
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Yes. Cant tell how many rimes I've had some immigrant try to buy something and fall short of cash because he doesnt know what 20 dollars is.
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1 ReplyMy Nana-in-law came to australia without knowing any english. I'd probably be without a husband if they didn't let her come.
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Yes I do think so. There is no sense in letting communication break down.
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They shouldn't be forced. People can get by in a new country without knowing the language (especially if there is a large community that speaks their language). People move countries for many reasons, and it is never a decision that they make lightly. They can be running from poverty, war, discrimination or crime. Should it be encouraged? Absolutely. There should be incentives (such as the ability to apply for citizenship) and free classes to help people learn the language and assimilate into the culture.
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In most situations. Refugees can apply for a waiver during which they must learn it.
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I think it should be encouraged, but definitely not forced.
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Forced? No, heavily encouraged? Yes.
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It would be a nice and convenient skill to have, even if all you ever learn is basic language, but no it shouldn't be something you are required to do
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Forced? No - nobody has that right. Apart from that it's even harder if you think about how that would even be enforced... do they have to know the language BEFORE moving? What if it isn't taught where they're from? In the case of countries or provinces that have two native languages what then? If you're being forced after they move, how is that done? Knowledge isn't immediately transfered, you can't actually force people to learn. Would you kick them out after a certain amount of time if they hadn't managed it? What if economical or intellectual or health factors played a part in preventing them? What's the opinion on sign languages? I do think people can be better involved in the communities they move into if they know or are learning the language and establishing better and more affordable education centres and services would seriously aid that, but it's not something you could (in what i would think is a fair and just world, but okay i can think of ways) or should ever force on migrants.
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>forced No. Heavily encouraged including incentives? Yes.
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One would assume that a person who emigrated to another country would endeavour to learn the language to make living their better. That being said, you can't force people to do things.
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1 ReplyNo. Having programs in place to facilitate the learning of a country's mother tongue would be ideal, but to force an individual to learn a language because they are foreign opens up a tremendous can of worms.
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No. It [i]is[/i] a very hard requirement. I took two years of Spanish and am still very, very, shitty at it. Like Mount said, it would be ideal, but at the same time it isn't all that realistic and would do more bad than good.
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dunno I'll just agree with whatever Jay says
