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originally posted in:The Vanguardians
10/30/2013 10:31:57 AM
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You know whats not gonna make me take this code of ethics seriously?
because it's aimed at, and lectures me just for being male.
I'm tired of being lectured at for things I didn't do by people I don't know.
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Because Males tend to do stupid things
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 10/31/2013 3:57:20 AMIf I follow your logic, then you're wrong. Males tend to do pretty smart things. Declaration of Human Rights. - The idea of equality, liberty, and justice Understanding Nature of Human existence - From Aristotle, to Newton and Einstein. The greatest minds have helped better understand the place of human beings in the greater cosmos through the laws of gravity and other scientific discoveries. Climbing Mount Everest - Symbolising the adventurous spirit of man Development of Modern Medicine and Vaccinations Moon Landing Leonardo Da Vinci's Mona Lisa Building the Great Pyramids The Works of William Shakespeare The First Flight by the Wright brothers 1901 and then again, following YOUR logic, women tend to do stupid things too. (see picture). Do you see what I did there? I took an incredibly small sample size and applied it to the ENTIRE gender. Do you see how flawed that is? for every example you find of a man being a douchebag, I can find an example of a woman doing something equally bad. for every example you find of a man being a dumbass, I can find an example of a woman being equally stupid. You are wrong.
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Ok you forgot slavery man. You're looking over alot of the bad and I do mean alot. I mean really just read this " When Miranda Pakozdi entered the Cross Assault video game tournament this year, she knew she had a slim chance of winning the $25,000 prize. But she was ready to compete, and promised fans watching online that she would train just as hard as, if not harder than, anyone else. Over six days of competition, though, her team’s coach, Aris Bakhtanians, interrogated her on camera about her bra size, said “take off your shirt” and focused the team’s webcam on her chest, feet and legs. He leaned in over her shoulder and smelled her. Ms. Pakozdi, 25, an experienced gamer, has said she always expects a certain amount of trash talk. But as the only woman on the team, this was too much, especially from her coach, she said. It was after she overheard Mr. Bakhtanians defending sexual harassment as part of “the fighting game community” that she forfeited the game." But you're right, most guys are good people, but no one cares about the good guys of the world when one or two assholes makes us all look like pricks.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 10/31/2013 5:53:34 AMAnd because of those one or two assholes that neither of us have met, you're encouraging all guys to behave a certain way because they are male. I've read your other replies and you like to say "but i never said you should follow these bullet points" or, "Im not ramming them down your throat". No, you're not, but you ARE encouraging it. To which I ask, who are you to tell me what to do based solely on the fact that I wasn't born a woman. This is why I'm not gonna take your code of Ethics seriously.
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..........Where did I say that all guys are creepers...........God can you at least read.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 10/31/2013 6:07:36 AMWhere did [b]I[/b] say that?
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You're implying it. It's clear as day. I'm encouraging all males to not be assholes because it's not just one or two guys. There is a problem here and you're not wanting to admit it. If it was just one of two guys then sure, I wouldn't be bringing this up, but when there are groups being made to bring awareness to harassment of female gamers then we have an issue on our hands.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 10/31/2013 6:25:55 AMYou're putting words in my mouth. I never said it wasn't a problem. I never implied you said all guys were creepers. Stop trying to change the subject and address my original point, which is who are you to tell me how to live my life?
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HAHAHHHAHAHAAHAH How am I telling you to live your life.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 11/1/2013 8:27:30 AMYou're telling me how you want me to live my life with these restrictions you've put on me in your "code of ethics for male gamers". This is how you want us male gamers to act right? That's what you're saying. when you say "for all you creepers out there here's a list of do's and dont's", you're saying, here's a list of things that you want me to look at and that you encourage me to follow them. now just in-case you decide to jump on the fact that the sentence says "for all you creepers" and you try to say this code isn't aimed at men in general, your THREAD TITLE clearly states that this code is intended for MALE gamers. That's how you're telling me to live my life. You discriminate based on sex, to BOTH genders. You make big sweeping judgements based on small sample sizes. You keep hiding behind circular logic and straw-man arguments. This is why I'm not going to take your code of ethics seriously.
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Then don't follow them. You don't have to you know. You are the only one here that is feeling forced of anything. Most people understand that this is just a simple list of dos and donts, but you are acting like I'm forcing you to follow these rules. like im shoving these rules onto you. You're the one that choose to read this thread and you're the one who choose to comment on this thread. If you are feeling forced of anything then that's just a personal problem. Now if you are a creeper then following these rule would be helpful.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 11/1/2013 11:12:13 PMThat's what I said I was going to do in my [u]original[/u] reply. Remember when I said I wasn't gonna take the code seriously? This is a good example of your usage of circular logic.
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Ok so you're just arguing for the hell of it. I don't even see why you posted.
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Edited by Vice Wolfe: 11/1/2013 11:32:53 PMNo, I was proving my point. You're trying to change the subject to why im posting. This is a good example of your usage of the straw-man argument.
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No I stayed on the subject, you just keep on changing your point to try to prove your point. Once again it seem like you are posting just because you like the sound of your own voice.
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Hahaha, you just said the equivalent of "No u". Then you proceeded to insult me. You have lost all credibility. For some reason you feel like you need to have the last word. So here it is. Reply away, because you actually haven't managed to counter the post I made 6 posts above this one. You shifted the subject to whether I should follow the code or not, even though It was clear from my original post my intentions on the matter. Unless you continue to contribute meaningful content to this conversation, we're done here.
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[quote]Hahaha, you just said the equivalent of "No u". Then you proceeded to insult me[/quote] .........How, I'm talking about the "No u" comment, not the clear insult because I really did insult you. I'm just responding and you're trying to have the last word. Usually when someone talks about "losing credibility" they usually have no argument and this is what I am currently experiencing with you. I'm only arguing whatever you are saying, granted what you are saying isn't that smart to begin with, but It is what it is. So I will ask you to say something worth responding to.
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Boom Roasted. I'm out.
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What he really said was "I'm tried, I give up."
