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Edited by Steel0range: 11/6/2014 12:53:26 AMGreat post! I just want to say from experience for those of you that have been turned away from raiding because of bad experiences in the raid with random teammates that I have done the raid both with members of this clan and with randoms, and it is honestly like playing two entirely different games. If you play with Grisbourne or other clan members, you will learn the mechanics of the raid, regardless of prior experience or skill, you will not be yelled at for screwing up a thousand times in a row, and most importantly, you will have fun. This is just the opposite of the experience of raiding with randoms where people pressure you, make you afraid to fail, refuse to teach you and then get mad when you screw up, or rage quit after one death. So basically what I am trying to say is, if you are hesitant to do the raid because of a bad experience in the past, I strongly encourage you to give it another shot with members of the clan (especially with Grisbourne because he will make you a master of the raid after one run through). I promise that the raid can be tons of fun if you do it with the right people!